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re: Is there a legit reason to be still using Fax machine

Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8342 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:53 am to
In 1990, my first job out of college was selling dictation equipment, straight commission. The ~15 of us in the office looked down upon the 2-3 guys next door in the newly opened Facsimile Division. The running joke was, great you sold one today, maybe he can hook up with the guy who bought one yesterday.

My how the turns have tabled.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:54 am to
It's more secure than email and gives a receipt confirmation.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:55 am to
Classic from page one of the big 2021 OT memes thread.

Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1711 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:58 am to
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I'm thinking it MAY have something to do with HIPAA compliance? office mgr says that's how they get insurance payments (?) and they come with credit card numbers to run.


HIPPA has nothing to do with PCI Compliance.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15152 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:59 am to
Dealing w a relative's estate over the last year.

Thrift Savings Plan (Govt Retirement Plan) Fax or US Mail were the only options to submit docs. It took about 8 months to get the relatives money out of the retirement plan.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25832 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:09 am to
quote:

They claim it’s a security issue.


We fax all the time and one reason is nobody is going to come back a month from now and hack a fax machine transmission. We send sensitive client docs between offices all the time and it just makes sense in a lot of situations.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:40 am to
For the last 25 years I thought they used solely for sending signed athletic scholarship papers to colleges.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6073 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:40 am to
quote:

We still have to use ours for transfer of health documents when a mental hospital sends a client referral. They claim it’s a security issue.


In healthcare, your company must have a way to securely email documents or faxing is required due to HIPAA. Most do have secure ways to send email, but some do not.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6073 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:41 am to
quote:


I'm thinking it MAY have something to do with HIPAA compliance? office mgr says that's how they get insurance payments (?) and they come with credit card numbers to run.
makes no sense to me.


I also personally feel a fax is less secure than an email, but that is the law. Somehow, people think the email will be hacked and nobody is going to leave a random fax laying around.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6073 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Most of the insurance companies I'm in network with require fax for authorization of treatment... aside from fields like mine I have no clue why anyone uses them.


A lot of those faxes don't go to a fax machine and don't get printed out. A lot of providers use RightFax or another service that basically securely emails the fax to a drop box for it to be collected.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:44 am to
quote:


Your an idiot if you think everyone in the typical corporate setting can sit at home and be just as productive and engaged in their team and relationships with co workers.



Never fails

And he didn't say everyone could stay home you moron
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:44 am to
Pharmacies and physician offices still use them all day. Most prescriptions are electronic, but fax communication is still convenient in that setting for quick signatures and corrections.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:46 am to
The fax machine is a secured transmission of data. A hacker can't get to your fax machine. But they can and will get to your email. We use it for client information. Most attorneys that I know use it for confidential client information
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1091 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:50 am to
I was told that a fax is much harder to hack. Banks use it for security, especially relative to wires.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6073 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:53 am to
quote:

They're both electronic signatures and both acceptable.


Maybe they are both acceptable. But I only see legal documents signed electronically through DocuSign. It's secure.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14424 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:53 am to
Stupid.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:54 am to
quote:

But I only see legal documents signed electronically through DocuSign. It's secure.


If you have the last 4 of the recipients social it's not secure.
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9516 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:58 am to
First time I heard of a fax being used was January 1st 1986 during the Orange Bowl. Penn State was making adjustments and drawing up plays then faxing them down to the sideline. Thought that was pretty cool at the time. Still didn't help them beat OU.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97711 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:01 pm to
Patient information in healthcare industry
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59064 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

But I only see legal documents signed electronically through DocuSign. It's secure.



No, if I wet ink sign a doc and then transmit that doc via e-mail or fax, those are both electronically transmitted signatures. Yes, a lot of people are moving to DocuSign.
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