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How to raise a shed?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:07 am
I have a shed similar to the one in the pic. I think I want to add a second floor so I can store tools and lawnmowers on the ground floor and have a home office upstairs.
I have access to jacks, but the question is should I pre-build the four new walls, jack up the shed at the bottom, and slip the new walls under? Or should I cut under the roof and jack up the roof, then add the walls in between the roof and the old walls?
I have access to jacks, but the question is should I pre-build the four new walls, jack up the shed at the bottom, and slip the new walls under? Or should I cut under the roof and jack up the roof, then add the walls in between the roof and the old walls?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:12 am to tadman
how big of an office do you need? you could just add on a lean-to to the sides and enclose it. or add on to one of the endwalls (extend the shed).
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:30 am to tadman
Both of your ideas are pretty bad, tbh. No offense…
Just open a wall, pour some concrete and frame a new space.
Question: does your shed have two double doors like the one in the picture? If so… do you NEED two?
Just open a wall, pour some concrete and frame a new space.
Question: does your shed have two double doors like the one in the picture? If so… do you NEED two?
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:40 am to tadman
I think you've oversimplified this project.
How wide is the shed? What size ceiling joists does it now have? How much load per sq. ft. will be in the 2nd floor when finished? Are the inside walls covered or just open studs?
The width of the shed will determine what size lumber has to be used to separate the 2 floors and that is anywhere from 2 x 6 to 2 x 12's depending on the span and the load you plan on putting in the 2nd floor area.
You need to check local building codes to get a better idea what you're facing in materials alone.
How wide is the shed? What size ceiling joists does it now have? How much load per sq. ft. will be in the 2nd floor when finished? Are the inside walls covered or just open studs?
The width of the shed will determine what size lumber has to be used to separate the 2 floors and that is anywhere from 2 x 6 to 2 x 12's depending on the span and the load you plan on putting in the 2nd floor area.
You need to check local building codes to get a better idea what you're facing in materials alone.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:41 am to tadman
I wouldnt do either of those.....but.......
If you do this, please document here via photos.
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should I pre-build the four new walls, jack up the shed at the bottom, and slip the new walls under
If you do this, please document here via photos.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:51 am to tadman
I'd dig a basement out beneath before trying to raise it.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:57 am to gumbo2176
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I think you've oversimplified this project.
How wide is the shed? What size ceiling joists does it now have? How much load per sq. ft. will be in the 2nd floor when finished? Are the inside walls covered or just open studs?
The width of the shed will determine what size lumber has to be used to separate the 2 floors and that is anywhere from 2 x 6 to 2 x 12's depending on the span and the load you plan on putting in the 2nd floor area.
You need to check local building codes to get a better idea what you're facing in materials alone.
Everything Gumbo2176 said....
This is not the "OT Lounge", so don't take this as me being a smart-a$$. BUT if you are asking your question and have not considered any of the points Gumbo2176 mentioned, then I cannot recommend highly enough that you not try this.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:01 pm to tadman
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I think I want to add a second floor so I can store tools and lawnmowers on the ground floor and have a home office
Where would you put the stairs? If inside, you are going to lose a lot of space in the bottom floor. Also, how would you handle heating and cooling the office?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:24 pm to TigerDeacon
The stairs would go out back so as not to take space from the inside. You are correct that the footprint on the ground floor and hole in the upstairs would be perhaps 30pct of the either area.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:29 pm to tadman
You need to hire a mechanical engineer
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:29 pm to TigerDeacon
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Where would you put the stairs? If inside, you are going to lose a lot of space in the bottom floor. Also, how would you handle heating and cooling the office?
Yeah, a lot to consider, then add the probability of need for more electricity that is likely not in that area now in a sufficient amount to do what the OP wants. A 2nd floor, lights, outlets, AC & heat.......
All I'm seeing is "CA-CHING, CA-CHING" with the costs adding up.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:18 pm to cgrand
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just build another shed
turn this one into an outdoor shower model.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:01 pm to KemoSabe65
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You need to hire a mechanical engineer
Baw that would be a structural engineer and I work with them every day. Mechanical would do stuff like gearboxes and motors.
Assuming that our structural is adequate (it is) I'm just looking for the easiest operation sequence.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:04 pm to gumbo2176
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Yeah, a lot to consider, then add the probability of need for more electricity that is likely not in that area now in a sufficient amount to do what the OP wants. A 2nd floor, lights, outlets, AC & heat.......
We already have dedicated power to the shed with a panel and breakers. The upstairs might need enough to power 1-2 lights, a laptop and printer, a window unit AC. That's maybe 110-130a total. Downstairs will not have air, just the solitary light bulb it already has and a charging station for the drill batteries.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:10 pm to tadman
Good thing nobody has had to raise their houses 8’-10’ in the last 8 years. Or up to 18’ on grand isle. Optimal? No, but can be done.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:43 pm to Capt ST
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Good thing nobody has had to raise their houses 8’-10’ in the last 8 years. Or up to 18’ on grand isle. Optimal? No, but can be done.
Yes it can, and for jobs that big, usually a company with tons of cribbing, dimensional steel beams and a multiple manifold hydraulic jacking system to evenly raise the structures.
Not some guy with a handful of house jacks and a vague idea how to do it.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:56 pm to cgrand
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just build another shed
This.
It will look better and sale better than raising it.
Or just build around it, but I wouldn’t do that personally.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:25 am to tadman
Damn, I thought this was about moving a shed ( DIY style). Carry on
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