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re: A reminder about Will Wade’s second season at LSU.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:22 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:22 pm to drizztiger
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You are very lucky I am not in charge of culling society.
You're a big softie and you know it. You wouldn't actually cull the dude, just put him in a really long time out.
Seriously, I sometimes wish the admins would ban multiple guys on both sides of this. I'm just tired of the guys who start threads solely to try to compare the two coaches. Everyone just stop already.
Neither guy is John Wooden and neither guy is Ricky Birdsong or Bob Wade (no relation).
McMahon will be here for at least one more year. Let's hope he can make the most of it and do something good. His recruiting needs to step up, though.
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:26 pm to mdomingue
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You're a big softie and you know it. You wouldn't actually cull the dude, just put him in a really long time out
I don’t know friend, comparing Wade to Nassar and Sandusky is over the line for me.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:59 pm to SouthernInsanity
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, i believe Mac's team plays defense a lot better than any that WW fielded.
Nobody cares what you believe, the metrics say otherwise.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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He can assume all he he wants, he was talking to people that were being investigated by the FBI, that he did not know that is not their or the NCAA’s problem. He was not fired for breaking the law so any 4th or 5th amendment protections do not apply to the NCAA or his employer
so you believe wade should have assumed the govt was listening in to his phone calls? phone calls about basketball recruits?
seems fair for wade to assume that the govt has no business whatsoever in those conversations. it happened he was wrong and they were listening in, but it seems fair for him to assume they were not, given his own privacy rights as an American.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:06 pm to Shooter
lol someone mad will wade isn’t their HC honestly you have to be on the spectrum if you don’t think wade was a good coach . I think what he doing in lake Charles solidifies he one of the best in college basketball.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:13 pm to tigerbait2010
I preferred having Will Wade as our coach, but he’s gone. As long as McMahon has the team trending up I will support him. That’s the only reasonable way to approach the situation at this point
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:22 pm to jamarr
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so you believe wade should have assumed the govt was listening in to his phone calls?
No of course not, I’m saying if you are talking to someone else then it’s not completely private and if the government is listening to them then they will hear you. ultimately it doesn’t matter how it was discovered he was violating NCAA rules if he was in fact violating NCAA rules
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but it seems fair for him to assume they were not, given his own privacy rights as an American.
Ok and what does that have to do with anything? He was unlucky? Still doesn’t matter he was caught he’s gone he’s not coming back
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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ultimately it doesn’t matter how it was discovered he was violating NCAA rules if he was in fact violating NCAA rules
it matters in the sense that we are describing how severe of an error wade made. I would argue that all or almost all coaches were violating the rules, and it was only bad luck wade got caught in a federal case.
it was reasonable for him to expect he had privacy.
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Ok and what does that have to do with anything? He was unlucky?
that's exactly the issue. he was unlucky. it wasn't that he was particularly corrupt or particularly sloppy. its that he was by chance caught up in a frivolous federal case and then LSU failed to have his back, for whatever reason (to protect football, because president Tate is an idiot,whatever, doesn't matter)
the point is that wade is an excellent coach that did nothing that everyone else wasn't doing and in fact was required to win. he was simply unlucky. its not his fault.
the claim that he was incompetent for not covering his tracks or being more secretive is false. he could not have expected the NCAA to listen to his calls via help from the feds.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:42 pm to jamarr
He definitely must have covered up his tracks well. They were claiming we paid naz reid 200 k and they searched javonte up n down and the only figures they came back with was like 5000 to the ex gf of a former player from like 2017 lol
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:44 pm to JimTiger72
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Ok bud that doesn’t mean those are the only 2 things he’s guilty of, those are the only 2 things they could prove.
So you're telling us when you get stopped for driving 63 in a 55 you tell the cop you were actually driving 74 before he caught you and you didnt completely stop at the last stop sign and you actually swerved on the highway???? come on man be better!!!!
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:51 pm to jamarr
It’s also why Wade got canned. Louisiana State University is an institution of higher learning. Bottom line said institution doesn’t need NCAA allegations much less an FBI investigation. LSU gave that bitch every chance to come forward and he refused. He quit on his own team
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:56 pm to jamarr
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it was reasonable for him to expect he had privacy.
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the claim that he was incompetent for not covering his tracks or being more secretive is false. he could not have expected the NCAA to listen to his calls via help from the feds.
Do you even hear yourself
When you are breaking the rules which he was and you are openly discussing it in the phone with another party that’s careless and stupid. The detail that it was the Feds is irrelevant. In some states you can record calls without the other persons consent or the guy he’s talking about on could have turned him or told a 3rd party that turned him in.
How he was caught is irrelevant he was caught which is pretty much the definition of being careless. Especially if as you claim everyone does it and does get caught.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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How he was caught is irrelevant he was caught which is pretty much the definition of being careless.
how he was caught is very relevant and its not "pretty much the definition of being careless". you can be very careful and get caught and super careless and not be caught.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:38 pm to mdomingue
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Seriously, I sometimes wish the admins would ban multiple guys on both sides of this
So do I.
Wade is fricking gone. Has been for 2 years. He ain't ever coming back. LSU won't take him if they chose to fire him despite his record, and if he has any self-respect he'd never go back to a school that fired him the way we did. It's time to move the frick on.
This is an LSU board, I'm an LSU fan. Not a Wade fan, not a McMahon fan, an LSU fan. I will support and root for the team and the guy we have, until such time as he ain't here anymore. Then my support goes to the next guy. You can criticize him all you like, that's part of being a fan. But whining over Wade now, is worse than those who continuously whined about Saban leaving. At least Saban won a title, and left a standing program. And he didn't put us in the NCAA spotlight in the process.
Go root for McNeese and Wade on the More Sports forum.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:05 pm to Scoob
And for those who keep pining away for Wade-
SOMETHING was wrong with that dude. He clearly rubbed people the wrong way... I've never seen anyone (any head coach) so universally disliked, even by his own administration.
I think he's the only guy Dickie V ever actively attacked. Vitale generally supported and praised everyone, even those who got caught cheating. And it wasn't just the bluebloods, he was always giving props to guys at lesser schools.
I know Oats is an arse, but I've never seen a coach yell "get the frick out" like he did... even Oats with other coaches.
LSU's admin when the scandal broke, that got antagonistic in a hurry. And Wade didn't do himself any favors.
Woodward, lest we forget, wasn't there at the time, he was at A&M. He inherited Wade, who was probably the most successful coach and program we had when he came in. Yet he was real quick to give him the ax, so it wasn't HIS call, it was the higher-ups.
I take it back, there IS one coach who gets the same treatment- Tony Vitello.
SOMETHING was wrong with that dude. He clearly rubbed people the wrong way... I've never seen anyone (any head coach) so universally disliked, even by his own administration.
I think he's the only guy Dickie V ever actively attacked. Vitale generally supported and praised everyone, even those who got caught cheating. And it wasn't just the bluebloods, he was always giving props to guys at lesser schools.
I know Oats is an arse, but I've never seen a coach yell "get the frick out" like he did... even Oats with other coaches.
LSU's admin when the scandal broke, that got antagonistic in a hurry. And Wade didn't do himself any favors.
Woodward, lest we forget, wasn't there at the time, he was at A&M. He inherited Wade, who was probably the most successful coach and program we had when he came in. Yet he was real quick to give him the ax, so it wasn't HIS call, it was the higher-ups.
I take it back, there IS one coach who gets the same treatment- Tony Vitello.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:25 pm to Choupique19
And there is ZERO proof that Wade ever won an SEC title at LSU. Otherwise there would be a banner recognizing said championship hanging in the PMAC. LSU does not recognize that season.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:28 pm to jamarr
But what is right is for LSU to part ways with Wade whether or not he was right or wrong. As an institution of higher learning LSU can’t afford to damage its reputation in anyway. And then when the 3 letters FBI come into play BYE FELICIA
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:31 pm to SouthernInsanity
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Fans seem to forget that WW was so fricking dumb..
That is The General sir. Show some respect
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:42 pm to Shooter
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You forgot to mention while Will Wade was buying players with his wife's credit card like the biggest dumbass in sports history.
Jesus Christ. Am I the only person on this forum who has read the IARP ruling?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:46 pm to cmacatl13
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Bottom line said institution doesn’t need NCAA allegations much less an FBI investigation.
Why can’t you morons get it through your simple minds that the FBI didn’t investigate Will Wade. They were investigating the guy in the other end of the phone call. Will Wade was collateral damage. And part of the NCAA’s problems with their investigation into Will Wade was that the FBI wouldn’t cooperate with the NCAA and help them out.
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