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Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:17 am to Mufassa
I know people don’t, and “moving away” to go to a new district especially in a place like Houston could only be 5 minutes either direction
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:20 am to fareplay
So affluent families are moving their kids to disadvantaged schools and taking away college access opportunities?
Now there is a story for an investigative journalist.
Now there is a story for an investigative journalist.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:50 am to El Segundo Guy
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Perhaps they should focus on improving their GPA, ACT and AP classes. If you're good enough, UT will accept you if you're 15% at an outstanding high school.
No they won’t. UT even successfully lobbied to reduce the percentage and to limit the total number of qualified Texas applicants they have to accept.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:01 am to Wayne Campbell
Lots of posters explaining a rule they don’t understand
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:20 am to yellowfin
Yep. The rule is simple, with one twist at UT.
If you are top 10% at any Texas high school, you are automatically admitted at Texas A&M. That’s it.
If you are top 6% at any Texas high school you are automatically admitted at UT Austin; however, for certain majors like engineering there is another layer of acceptance that is “wholistic”. Students who are admitted but don’t get their major of choice can still attend and pick from a list of majors that don’t require the wholistic review. These are broadly speaking the liberal arts majors.
It is extremely competitive to get certain majors at UT. I know at student who was top 6% with a perfect score on the math part of the SAT that did not get engineering.
If you are top 10% at any Texas high school, you are automatically admitted at Texas A&M. That’s it.
If you are top 6% at any Texas high school you are automatically admitted at UT Austin; however, for certain majors like engineering there is another layer of acceptance that is “wholistic”. Students who are admitted but don’t get their major of choice can still attend and pick from a list of majors that don’t require the wholistic review. These are broadly speaking the liberal arts majors.
It is extremely competitive to get certain majors at UT. I know at student who was top 6% with a perfect score on the math part of the SAT that did not get engineering.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:15 am to fareplay
I personally think that's dumb. While 10% is auto accept, that's not the only students that get into the state schools. Key word is also auto accept not auto full ride scholarship. That would drastically raise the stakes.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:17 am to Displaced
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Seems like a pretty dumb, easily exploitable blanket rule.
Or, is it a rule that essentially guarantees more even dispersion of higher achieving students throughout the state?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:25 am to fareplay
yea i mean....just like if my kids really liked sports and couldnt get on the field at a school...i would let them transfer....why would i not do the same for academics? Its not that big of a deal really.
i mean look how many people move out of Nola or BR proper to better districts.
i mean look how many people move out of Nola or BR proper to better districts.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:26 am to 225rumpshaker
Moving for less competition doesnt help your kids in the long run.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Moving for less competition doesnt help your kids in the long run.
if it gets them into UT it absolutely does.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:32 am to Fletch1985
quote:I think a lot of people are pretty out of touch with college admissions these days.
It is extremely competitive to get certain majors at UT. I know at student who was top 6% with a perfect score on the math part of the SAT that did not get engineering.
occasionally i'll see a post here or hear something in real life about a (good) state school and assuming an ACT score that starts with a "2" and a 3.something gpa from a mediocre public high school will get them in/get scholarship money.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:unless, you know, it does
Moving for less competition doesnt help your kids in the long run.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:44 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I think a lot of people are pretty out of touch with college admissions these days.
occasionally i'll see a post here or hear something in real life about a (good) state school and assuming an ACT score that starts with a "2" and a 3.something gpa from a mediocre public high school will get them in/get scholarship money.
100% just like most think you have to get into some great school to be making 6 figures within 5 years.
people need to look at starting salaries at certain schools/majors, mid career salaries and then compare to cost of attendance and get a good idea of ROI.
if people did this, they would be much better off overall.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:47 am to fareplay
Still tough to get in if not top 10%?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:47 am to lsu777
I always saved money so my son could go to a state school and frick off for 4-6 years…my parents did it for me, and it was a damn fine time.
He chose differently.
He chose differently.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:49 am to fareplay
It isn’t really about being non-competitive. My kid is in one of these schools. You get an extra “point” for taking advanced courses and the top 30% of her class has a GPA above the top of the scale due to the extra point (she has a 6.75 on a 6.0 scale and is barely in the top 20%).
In her class, 740 out of 990 students met the requirement for National Honor Society - but the school wouldn’t let them all in because it made the other high schools in the district look bad.
She’ll never crack the top 10% because she took some FFA classes that didn’t offer advanced grading when she thought she might want to be a veterinarian. Even though she got As - losing the extra point won’t let her get the 6.90+ GPA it takes to crack the top 10%.
In her class, 740 out of 990 students met the requirement for National Honor Society - but the school wouldn’t let them all in because it made the other high schools in the district look bad.
She’ll never crack the top 10% because she took some FFA classes that didn’t offer advanced grading when she thought she might want to be a veterinarian. Even though she got As - losing the extra point won’t let her get the 6.90+ GPA it takes to crack the top 10%.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:53 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Yes. To clarify, the top 10/6% rules apply only at TAMU College Station and UT Austin. Those are the best public schools. It’s not competitive at most other UT and TAMU system schools or Texas Tech or Texas State schools.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:09 am to Pvt Hudson
This is the main thing to understand about Texas high schools. The system rewards singular focus on academics and the Asian/Indian families aren’t concerned about balance. So at the most competitive schools, you can’t do FFA, play a sport and be in the top 10%. One extra curricular at most and it’s still tough to make the GPA math work.
The geographically large public school district where I live has super competitive schools, middle of the road, and not so great schools. But we have school choice. You can go to any high school you want as long as you have your own transportation. So it’s not uncommon at all for students looking for more balance to go to a middle of the road school to have a chance at top 10%. Students who are focused on academics battle it out at the competitive schools. Then there’s plenty who are fine with Tech or Texas State or TCU/SMU/Baylor if they can pay private and don’t worry about class rank as much.
The geographically large public school district where I live has super competitive schools, middle of the road, and not so great schools. But we have school choice. You can go to any high school you want as long as you have your own transportation. So it’s not uncommon at all for students looking for more balance to go to a middle of the road school to have a chance at top 10%. Students who are focused on academics battle it out at the competitive schools. Then there’s plenty who are fine with Tech or Texas State or TCU/SMU/Baylor if they can pay private and don’t worry about class rank as much.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:10 am to Fletch1985
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but it makes 0 sense to talk about Texas University admissions on a Louisiana sports board where most of the fans simply are clueless on the effort it takes to get into the top state schools, LSU simply can't compare.
The interesting thing about Texas is there really isn't many other state schools kids want to go. Who wants to go to school in Lubbock? At least Florida and California have a lot of sought after locations like San Diego, Orlando, Tampa, etc.
Yes, people really don't understand the difference in the top 6 and top 10%. I went to Del Rio HS for a year and I would have easily been top 3% at a school of 3000 kids in 10-12 grade, so top 90. I moved to Florida and I was barely top 15% at a school with 2200 kids 9-12 so top 60. I didn't play the game like some kids, but its fairly serious game to play to go to the better schools.
The interesting thing about Texas is there really isn't many other state schools kids want to go. Who wants to go to school in Lubbock? At least Florida and California have a lot of sought after locations like San Diego, Orlando, Tampa, etc.
Yes, people really don't understand the difference in the top 6 and top 10%. I went to Del Rio HS for a year and I would have easily been top 3% at a school of 3000 kids in 10-12 grade, so top 90. I moved to Florida and I was barely top 15% at a school with 2200 kids 9-12 so top 60. I didn't play the game like some kids, but its fairly serious game to play to go to the better schools.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:13 am
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