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Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:04 pm to H2O Tiger
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:05 pm to Epic Cajun
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UT is a very good university, even though it's public
Did you even look at what I was replying to?
ETA: UT is a good university, no dig on them.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:06 pm to fareplay
Have your friends in the woodlands considered that those 'crowding' their kids' schools are doing it to inflate their own kids' standing? What makes them think they're at the top?
Maybe your friend's kids are not so smart after all and the parents don't want to blame themselves.
Maybe your friend's kids are not so smart after all and the parents don't want to blame themselves.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:14 pm to H2O Tiger
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My wife went to Texas and said one of her freshman year dorm mates was valedictorian of her small high school somewhere out in the middle of nowhere West Texas and was in remedial math first semester.
Maybe she slept with her teachers to reach for valedictorian.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:15 pm to fareplay
oh man, i havent thought about this in a long time. i went to Bellaire in houston which, in the late 90s at least, was a pretty competitive public school. no idea if it still is. i knew several kids whose parents moved senior year just so they could transfer to a less competitive school and graduate top ten percent.
side note - that top ten percent thing is such horseshite, in hindsight. basically just another disguised handout.
for the record, i was NOT top ten percent at Bellaire.
side note - that top ten percent thing is such horseshite, in hindsight. basically just another disguised handout.
for the record, i was NOT top ten percent at Bellaire.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:22 pm to fareplay
Iron sharpens iron, in zero way shape or form would I send my kid to another school to avoid competition. That is setting such a shite example for your kid that running away from competition for personal gain is acceptable.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:34 pm to Jcorye1
Im curious how the parents that are thinking this would somehow know their kid would be top at another school. Trust me their 27th ranked kid isn’t that special
I also wouldn’t change my life for my kid to get into a better school because of a ranking. Go to community college at that point and save money. It’s cool to be proud and all to go to a big school but if you’re not studying a few specific programs then it’s just another higher level of broad education.
I also wouldn’t change my life for my kid to get into a better school because of a ranking. Go to community college at that point and save money. It’s cool to be proud and all to go to a big school but if you’re not studying a few specific programs then it’s just another higher level of broad education.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:52 pm to fareplay
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I think people don’t understand that even these public schools have limits on capacity. It ain’t easy to say do better if there’s no space to accept your kid. Some of these schools with a lot of… a specific demographic are ruthless academically and can’t compete
Yeah, but the formula isn't only the top 10% of students get accepted into state schools. Those kids are guaranteed a spot but there's still room for otherwise qualified students who have good grades and standardized test scores. So kids ranked 11-30% are still probably getting in somewhere at most high schools and maybe even the top half from the best schools.
Put another way - your kid isn't necessarily competing against the top 10 at their elite school full of "hard workers" with "overbearing parents". They are competing against the top 10 from some crappy school in the sticks or the ghetto where some of the kids are in the top 10% but otherwise don't have the grades to make the cut. And even then, your kid's grades would have to be borderline by admission standards to push them out.
So it's a narrow window to aim at. I wouldn't uproot my family and change their social environment just to try to game that small window. I would make sure my kid studied and worked hard enough to stay out of the Wait List range so they could get in on merit. That's not a tall order for Texas public universities.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:57 pm to fareplay
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A lot of my friends from Houston are moving away from woodlands because there are specific type of very academic people who are crowding the schools making it harder for their kids to get top10%. Makes me think is it acceptable to run away from strong competition?
For the non Texans, top 10% gets you into all state schools (I think UT is 8%)
I don't know. Texas has an agreement with New Mexico that New Mexico Residents can pay Texas in state tuition in a program that does not have a specific degree program. They also apply the 10% rule to those kids...its not many but vet school is a big one. I think I would study long and hard about moving from New Mexico to a highly competitive school system if my kid was one of those.
By the way the Texas model is VERY admirable. It is my understanding that most of those kids who would not make the cut otherwise do pretty well in Texas universities. That may just be wishful thinking but Texas should be admired for ensuring their kids have a spot if they do the right thing. It may be Lubbock or San Angelo but they have a spot.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:02 pm to fareplay
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I think people don’t understand that even these public schools have limits on capacity. It ain’t easy to say do better if there’s no space to accept your kid. Some of these schools with a lot of… a specific demographic are ruthless academically and can’t compete
Its my understanding, and could be completely wrong, but the 10% is still competitive...so being in the top 10% in your class does not guarantee you a place in Austin or College Station but does guarantee you a place somewhere in the state. I know a BUNCH of people in Texas who kids went to Texas Tech and have been told by bunches of people that almost all of TT's student body is comprised of the top 10% of state high schools who weren't accepted at UT or ATM. Not a knock on TT, they have a stellar reputation as does most if not all Texas universities.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:00 pm to fareplay
It’s actually a somewhat smart thing to do.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:01 pm to JimTiger72
This is really the only way to do it at UT. The alternative is go to ACC for a year and get a 4.0 (it has to be a 4.0 pretty much)
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:22 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Screw this perverted helicopter parent college scheming game.
It has been interesting to observe. In many Plano schools, a white student will be in the minority. Asian students go to private tutoring businesses like Mathnasium on Saturdays. Sunday is usually spent with religious observances and family activities. Frisco and Prosper are following the same path.
Parents think these schools are great but the school ratings are being pumped up by the overachieving students, not super-gifted teachers. They put their kids in these schools and get a very good education but they’ll end up around the middle of the pack. Those same kids could get a very good education but rank nearer to the top of their class if the parents weren’t so concerned about not being able to say their kid goes to such and such school.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:27 pm to fareplay
Took my kids out of Louisiana because of the weak competition…and murder, poverty culture, and so on.
So yeah. Moved away for my kids.
So yeah. Moved away for my kids.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:06 pm to Willie Stroker
UT is just another state school nothing more or less. It’s comical to see the idiots here in TX act like there is some Halo effect or brag about “business honors program” lol these people are idiots. Same goes for ATM except it’s somehow even gayer even though it’s not in Austin, which is saying something.
TLDR: no, I wouldn’t move and I also will not encourage my kids to go to either UT or ATM, they should strive to do much better
TLDR: no, I wouldn’t move and I also will not encourage my kids to go to either UT or ATM, they should strive to do much better
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:19 pm to Willie Stroker
I would have moved for my son to play soccer for a national or professional team, but international he’d have been on his own.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:36 am to El Segundo Guy
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If you're good enough, UT will accept you if you're 15% at an outstanding high school.
Someone has never dealt with college admissions at a large public university
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:07 am to fareplay
We left NOLA mainly for the kids.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:09 am to NOLAVOL16
I would let my kids decide if they want to do that.
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