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re: Need Info on TRT

Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
32530 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

My family doctor is sending me to my urologist for my Low T issues. Is this normal?




urologist are usually the most knowledgeable on this in my experience.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5293 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:32 pm to
LSU777 (and others)-what days are you testing your blood parameters?


i inject twice weekly, tuesdays and fridays. what would be most reflective of normal state or is twice a week enough to general be stable at any time. (no peaks and valleys or very little difference).

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
32530 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:43 pm to
i usually try and do 48 hours after injection. keeps me out of peak but out of any valley
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1852 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 5:03 pm to
So Im just switching to self injection. I'm going to recieve preloaded syringes. I'm assuming those that break the dosage into smaller injections throughout the week draw their own dosage?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
32530 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:46 pm to
Yea we get the multi use via, draw needles, syringes with injection needle.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:01 pm to
Experts, need yall thoughts on this. Labs In October were on 140mg/wk and current labs were on 160mg/wk. My goal was to get free T up to around 200 to see how I’d feel. Well it went in reverse. The only variable was that I did a workout before getting these drawn and I’ve lost 50# since October. Does a workout before drop you test or is that bro science? FYI I pen on Mondays and Thursdays and these were taken Pre injection on a Thursday morning at 8am.




Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
32530 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Experts, need yall thoughts on this. Labs In October were on 140mg/wk and current labs were on 160mg/wk. My goal was to get free T up to around 200 to see how I’d feel. Well it went in reverse. The only variable was that I did a workout before getting these drawn and I’ve lost 50# since October. Does a workout before drop you test or is that bro science? FYI I pen on Mondays and Thursdays and these were taken Pre injection on a Thursday morning at 8am.


i mean what you are seeing is natural fluctuations and nothing to be concerned about at all. if you had went from say 975/149 to 600/85 then i would say oh yea....something changed.

sounds like you have been in a slight caloric deficit for a while with that 50 lbs weight loss so shgb may be slightly more elevated. nothing to be concerned about though really

and understand these being taken thursday morning, means you were in your valley so these are really good numbers

to get free test up I keep the dose at 160mg/wk and start taking 12-15mg of boron and see how that treats you, take in the morning.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
1148 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:47 am to
Finally got in at the urologist on Thursday and he hit me with 300mg. I have to go back this Thursday for blood work to see what my levels are, and he said he will adjust and keep adjusting until we find the perfect dose. I felt great during the weekend. Had way more drive to want to get stuff done.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:56 am to
300mg/week?? To start? This urologist is a full send it type of MD
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 6:57 am
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8550 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:43 am to
quote:

My Dr won't give it to me. My test was 537 and 453 the last two times they checked it. I was hoping it would help with my lack of energy.


Don’t feel too bad. I had a number of 305 and 330 and the urologist told me I “looked good” and that the low numbers had nothing to do with lethargy, mood, lack of drive, or lack of libido. I walked away as baffled as I was pissed off. I’m considering trying to find a better doctor this year.
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
1148 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:10 am to
well, it was my first shot and it was one so far. He has me going back this week for blood work and to see.

My numbers were actually crazy low so...
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:37 am to
I’m not trying to tell ya what to do but I’d do some research of my own if I were you. Majority of MD’s today are not up to date on TRT protocols and it sounds like you’ve got an ideal example. 300mg is a very high dose for TRT, hell 200mg is the top end that very few people require. You’re flirting with a blast at 300.
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
1148 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:48 am to
My free test was 3.4 and my other number was 90. Thats why he hit me with 300mg.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:51 am to
Hopefully it goes well for ya keep us posted
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
880 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:39 am to
My report didn't show free test but I was low end of normal for my age. I have a follow up appointment March 1st. I'll ask him about test but the follow is probably due to cholesterol.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7838 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Majority of MD’s today are not up to date on TRT protocols


When I came off anabolics and androgens and hGH in 2015 I had to go to like 7 different MD's before I found one that had any clue about how to properly do this or even knew what half the compounds were that I was using. I typed up a sheet with the pharmaceutical name, generic name, and type of compound it was and every single one took that sheet and went to a computer to google. They had zero clue and all came back with a look of horror on their face like I had just murdered someone and gave me the "steroids are bad!!!" speech to which I said no shite which is why I am getting off of them but I need you to prescribe A, B, and C to me to do this correctly. None of them would prescribe anything. I ended up doing it myself. I wasted so much time. It was astounding to me how clueless they were.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58868 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:01 am to
Right. Like starting someone at 300mg/wk and re checking levels within 1 week.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4959 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:43 am to
Sorry if dumb question, but is trt the cause of the square big head. I know a couple guys on it and just got melons since.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
880 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:32 am to
quote:

orry if dumb question, but is trt the cause of the square big head. I know a couple guys on it and just got melons since.



I'm glad you ask that because I've always wondered that. I know several with the new melon head. One guy is in outstanding shape now but that head is huge.
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