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re: True Detective S4 Season Long Thread
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:29 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:29 am to Funky Tide 8
Prior to this mornign I hadn't read anything about this season other than just this thread. After some more browsing apparently the navarro lady isn't actually an actress by trade (she's really a boxer) and this is only her 2nd role. I'm not hating necessarily, but I mean...could they not have found someone else to cast? If this Issa lady is simply hellbent on a female minority being in that role, cool. Go for it. But on top of that why pick one that doesn't have much acting experience and has metal affixed to her face to boot?
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:34 am to WG_Dawg
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Do we think there's anythign to be gleaned by foster's strange aversion to the beatles? Like as soon as they enter the facility she is alerted like an animal hearing one of those high pitched dog whistles. She then sprints to find the source and goes nuts trying to turn it off. Then simply says "not a beatles fan". Just seemed really weird and over the top for such a throwaway line.
I think that she was just irritated that music was blasting while they were trying to investigate a potential crime scene. And she probably does hate the Beatles.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:36 am to Tsw
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the scene where Ferris Bueller / Twist and Shout is playing you can see a homage to The Thing, as a clearly visible DVD case.
I definitely picked up on that.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:50 am to WG_Dawg
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could they not have found someone else to cast?
I think this is an issue with the supply of Native actresses. Even Taylor Sherridan, who tries to respect them and cast actual natives in native roles, used Kelsey Asbille twice (Wind River, Yellowstone) when she's likely not native (and only looks that way b/c of her paternal Chinese lineage).
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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She then sprints to find the source and goes nuts trying to turn it off.
I think that was just to highlight the difference in their attitudes towards problem-solving.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:13 pm to mattchewbocca
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Just started it . Already has a black female cop with tats on neck and piercings in cheek in Alaska
So you didn't even watch the previews
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Bet she’s gay
Still think so?
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:18 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Hoping they tie in that dang ole yella kang this season.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:26 pm to dallastiger55
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For people asking about the opening and the meaning; the director and writer from that podcast said it was a callback to what Rust said in S1 about light and dark in the world and dark last longer
It was a period of brief light with the Caribou and then darkness comes and she said it’s saying eventually the darkness will come
Kind of stretch to me but just wanted to clarify what it meant
What an odd way to portray that meaning. I mean S1 was arguably my favorite single season of TV ever and I've watched it I don't know how many times. I would have never in a million years guessed that it what they were going for with that scene.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:43 pm to cas4t
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This show does not do that, so save it for another thread.
I wonder what is more likely...that a mainstream 2024 show is not political OR that the politics just happens to be the ones you identify with
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:44 pm to iwyLSUiwy
My biggest issue with EP1 is it seemed heavily rooted in supernatural shite which IMO will make for a way less interesting season.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:57 pm to hiltacular
Yea I'd be really disappointed if they went supernatural. Would be pretty dumb.
I felt like they were taking something from The Leftovers with the bear. In the Leftovers in episode one I think they have the deer that busts into the kitchen and like tears the house up. And then he is out with the neighbor shooting dogs. You don't know if it's real, a dream, or maybe supernatural. No way this is as ever as good as The Leftovers, but anything that resembles it is a good thing imo.
I felt like they were taking something from The Leftovers with the bear. In the Leftovers in episode one I think they have the deer that busts into the kitchen and like tears the house up. And then he is out with the neighbor shooting dogs. You don't know if it's real, a dream, or maybe supernatural. No way this is as ever as good as The Leftovers, but anything that resembles it is a good thing imo.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:34 pm to hiltacular
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My biggest issue with EP1 is it seemed heavily rooted in supernatural shite which IMO will make for a way less interesting season.
Have we come full circle from S1?
Because that was what made S1 so popular
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Could you really call it “supernatural” though?
Have we come full circle from S1?
Because that was what made S1 so popular
There were hyper-religious components, but it was more of Russ’s psychological and meta-physical ramblings that seemed to entice people.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Because that was what made S1 so popular
I'm gonna hard disagree there.
Season 1 in real time (as in, not looking back with the lens of hindsight, just talking strictly as we watched each episode fresh) was popular as hell because:
-On this board specifically, the Louisiana aspecdt
-Marty and friggin Rust. Phenomenal acting by 2 guys most all of us like
-A rabbit hole of a mystery that involved a)trafficking of girls, b) a psychotic looking underwear-clad gas mask wearing weirdo c) some yellow king/carcosa stuff
-Exquisite, A-tier T&A. Daddario obviously gets the press clippings but lili simmons held her own
-Wondering WTF happened in rust's past and his backstory, and what happened between him and marty to ruin their relationship
-And just to reiterate again....Mcconaughy was simply outstanding and must watch
and probably on and on and on that I haven't mentioned. My overall point being....no, simply having supernatural aspects is NOT what made S1 as popular as it is/was.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:46 pm to WG_Dawg
I think there was a bit of disappointment that there wasn’t some bigger meaning behind it all and was a bit of a let down with regards to the ending. Still a phenomenal show though.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:49 pm to UnluckyTiger
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I think there was a bit of disappointment that there wasn’t some bigger meaning behind it all and was a bit of a let down with regards to the ending
yeah that was a long, looooong debate in real time as it happened. As I recall SFP was the leader of one side and would constantly argue with everyone else on the baord about it. I personally think the ending kinda fell a tiny bit flat, but that's probably more so due to how outrageously high of a trajectory it was alreayd on. It would've been difficult to stick the landing to everyone's satisfaction, IMO.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:50 pm to Scruffy
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Could you really call it “supernatural” though?
It didn't end up being either supernatural or part of a larger narrative, both of which were the backbones of the fandom of the first half of that season.
If you want to just do some easy google searching about the supernatural stuff, just include "Lovecraft", "Lovecraftian", or "cosmic horror" in searches about S1.
Carocosa and the Yellow King are, IIRC, literally lifted from HPL.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:54 pm to WG_Dawg
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some yellow king/carcosa stuff
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no, simply having supernatural aspects is NOT what made S1 as popular as it is/was.
Supernatural + the conspiracy-based mystery are what made S1 popular, and led to ALL of the conflict when it limped to the finish line.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:54 pm to WG_Dawg
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As I recall SFP was the leader of one side and would constantly argue with everyone else on the baord about it.
I was more arguing with people about what they had said previously and, more importantly, what they had NOT said previously (muh character study).
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:yep this is what I was expecting and had hyped myself up to believe. It was an absolutely brilliant build up and had multiple people going down those rabbit holes in real time and added an eeriness/realness. It’s hard to explain but it did such a great job of having people actually considering a supernatural element may have some actual validity to it and tied to real life.
Carocosa and the Yellow King are, IIRC, literally lifted from HPL.
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