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re: What can be done about the border crisis?

Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:32 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:32 am to
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So how is this not intentional dereliction of duty at multiple levels at a minimum, and possibly treason by many in this administration?

Because the illegal immigrants lie and say they're claiming asylum, which triggers certain procedures that are laws of the US (via treaties comprising the Geneva Convention).

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:33 am to
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1. Reinstall the Remain in Mexico policy
2. Improve the economic conditions of Central America
3. Withdraw from the Geneva Convention


We can easily keep them out through many of the obvious answers in this thread. So I couldn't give two shits about the economic conditions in a bunch of other countries. Let them figure it out themselves. We need to improve economic conditions in the US.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:35 am to
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We can easily keep them out through many of the obvious answers in this thread.

Well I'm giving legal options, not illegal ones that violate our laws.

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We need to improve economic conditions in the US.

We can do that by improving the economic conditions of Central America.

I'd rather Hondurans and El Salvadorians do the lower level manufacturing that China is currently doing.

This investment has done wonders to thwart illegal economic migration from Mexicans.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:37 am to
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2. Improve the economic conditions of Central America


Central America would have the infrastructure of Dubai if a fraction of the money we spend on illegals here was spent developing those countries.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:37 am to
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Definitely not legal


Then why do we keep saying immigrants? Are we against immigration as a whole?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:38 am to
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Central America would have the infrastructure of Dubai if a fraction of the money we spend on illegals here was spent developing those countries.

I completely agree, which is why it's the best long-term solution.

Not only would this end up saving us money (via spending on illegal immigration issues), but it would also kneecap China.

It's a long-term thing, though.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:38 am to
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legal options, not illegal ones that violate our laws.


How is the wall illegal?
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:42 am to
Enforce the law!
Arrest traitors that are purposely ignoring the law
starting on Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:00 am to
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I'd rather Hondurans and El Salvadorians do the lower level manufacturing that China is currently doing.



I posed this question to an executive in supply chain management at a large US company that does most of its manufacturing in China. He was going on about shipping issues from China. I asked, why not move your manufacturing to Central America?

Central America doesn't have the technical expertise to build and maintain the capital infrastructure to support the required manufacturing level, but most importantly, those countries are all horribly corrupt.

You'd have to have some colonization situation and a couple of decades of massive investment to pull it off, and that's not happening as long as China exists. If you pumped billions into their economy for economic development, you'd just be making a small group of people wealthy with nothing to show for it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:13 am to
Elect Trump
Posted by jimmarley
Southeast
Member since May 2020
1526 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:20 am to
I agree with you. Demographics of USA are forever changed. Implications for our children's future!
What can be done? That horse done left the barn.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23279 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Don't forget trash treaties


Treaties are fine.

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:36 pm to
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What can be done about the border crisis?


stop voting for democrats
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23279 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Well I'm giving legal options, not illegal ones that violate our laws.


Stop.

There is no legitimate reason for a Hoduran to be granted refugee status. I'll qualify that by saying there may be a handful who have the ire of the governing body and face real risk, but that number would be inconsequential to the numbers piling in.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:48 pm to
Good fences make good neighbors
Posted by TigerEyeGuy
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:50 pm to
Organize a citizen militia, deputies willing citizens to police the border etc. Start making them FAFO
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261577 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:02 pm to
In the end the border issue may be a plus for Republicans. I hear some Democrats starting to see the light on this issue.
Posted by TigerEyeGuy
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:43 pm to
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In the end the border issue may be a plus for Republicans


You're a fool. Have you seen what happened to Europe a decade after their border invasion? Stop with the false dichotomy of LvR its them vs us and we lose
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18002 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:49 pm to
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They know what to say to claim asylum, which triggers a special set of laws

Does the simple act of claiming asylum seal the deal or can the "receiving" country call bullshite on the spot and send them back?
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
94 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:57 pm to
We are becoming more and more like China every day.
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