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re: One in five young Americans think the Holocaust is a myth

Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:04 pm to
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Who lives in Israel?

Israelis

Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:05 pm to
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SlowFlowPro

Say what you want to say
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Protesting Israel is not protesting Jewish people.


Correct, they are protesting the fact that Jews are in charge of the government in Israel.

Their solution:

From the river to the sea…a Jewish genocide.

Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
What would be the end game for exaggeration or being lied to? I’ve read, watched, and gone through thousands and thousands of hours of information and I have never seen, or heard mentioned, the things you’ve linked.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Say what you want to say

I support Israel against Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, etc.

Palestine isn't a state and likely hasn't been a state since at least Rome.

What do I win?
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
Young Americans are also more likely to give troll answers to polls.

I don’t believe these results for a second.

Younger people are just having fun with the boomers and anyone more likely to have delicate feelings about this historical event.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
It's not a myth but the numbers are almost certainly overstated.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:06 pm to
You don’t have to convince me. I lived in Germany. I’ve been to Dachau and a few other smaller camps.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:07 pm to
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who is telling them this?


The holocaust is less and less talked about. It seems to have been around the early 2000’s. It’s the education system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:07 pm to
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What would be the end game for exaggeration or being lied to? I’ve read, watched, and gone through thousands and thousands of hours of information and I have never seen, or heard mentioned, the things you’ve linked.

I agree, most of the "gotcha" attempts by the Holocaust deniers are idiosyncratic things only they seem to reference and focus on.

It's like with most conspiracy theories. Find one small kernel of truth and use it to discredit everything so that "just asking questions" replaces actual information.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:09 pm to
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It’s the education system.


Which is controlled by the left. More than 1 in 5 believe men can menstruate.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:09 pm to
We are -always- supposed to believe things they tell us to believe, or we are bad guys. What we can't prove is what we haven't seen with our own eyes.

What we HAVE SEEN, even in recent years, they tell us to deny our eyes.

History is written by those who gain power, and almost no governments (or other powers) are good or altruistic. Only the people have the capacity for good and growth.

So every bit of history we've ever been fed has been lies to some degree, or even completely.

I don't deny looooooots of Jews died due to Hitler's actions and the socialist party of Nazi germany. But, we act like the jews are the ONLY ONES to ever suffer such atrocities, and that their suffering has always been the worst.

History is full of lies, half truths, and emptiness where there should be light. Did the Holocaust happen? Sure. I think that data is clear. Did they tell us everything about it? Doubtful.
This post was edited on 12/9/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:12 pm to
This one is hard though and none of their arguments ever make sense. Ive never even heard what the end game would be for this one being a “conspiracy theory”.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Younger people are just having fun with the boomers and anyone more likely to have delicate feelings about this historical event.


I like this take.
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:14 pm to
I don't know what it is exactly but I'm positive it's not what we've been fed all these years. The towers were not knocked down by muslims, so I'm confident the holocaust has been a hefty lie too.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:16 pm to
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The holocaust is less and less talked about. It seems to have been around the early 2000’s. It’s the education system.


The Diary of Anne Frank is no longer required reading. Hell, half of the students today don’t even know who she is.
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Some "clever" folks on the right are trying to turn criticizing Israel into this. That's essentially what you responded to.

that’s not what I said at all. Learn to read

I have no problem with people criticizing Israel. Take your bullshite somewhere else. It is progressive, liberal idiots denying the Holocaust and supporting Palestine/Hamas in their genocide of Jews.

And liberal Jews help fund their own demise through the university indoctrination system.
This post was edited on 12/9/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:18 pm to
I have a friend who has 2 masters degrees from respectable colleges and he’s 100% convinced the holocaust was fake. Anytime the topic comes up he sends me some whacked out websites and videos and other “proof” it was staged.

The dude is hardly a liberal… just somehow out of touch with reality on a host of topics and history. I figure if he is that nutty there have to be millions of dumber people with the same beliefs.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:19 pm to
I was working in Rotterdam in 2018 and made my way there. It’s hard to explain, but it’s contained now, for preservation obviously, and looks like it was glass-covered by Apple. It’s really crazy when you get to the line to go inside.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:20 pm to
Black mold. He has black mold and doesn’t realize it. Steady inhaling them spores. They do a number on brain function.

Don’t tell him. See what happens. It’ll be fun.
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