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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage

Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by timdallinger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:22 pm to
In a free market, employee shortages fix themselves. If the demand of a profession exceeds the supply, wages will increase to fill the shortage.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36178 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:22 pm to
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What’s wrong with unions?


They tend to be corrupt beaurocracies and are sometimes run by gangsters. Given the choice between improving the life outcomes of children and defending the jobs of terrible teachers they side with teachers
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:24 pm to
Hospitals have lost their arse the last 3 years expecting nurses to randomly spring up and be willing to accept the pay that they are offering. Nurses haven’t, so hospitals have lost MILLIONS using agency nursing companies to help staff. They kept betting on red and the wheel has been showing black
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 11:25 pm
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
2868 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:25 pm to
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Which is why nursing unions are important. If there was a strong nursing union presence in all states then we wouldn’t be having this problem of shortages of nurses.


Laugh all you want, but my wife works in the Neonatal intensive care unit at one of the best hospitals in the state and she is offered 0 paid maternity leave. That’s just begging for unions to come in. They start you at like $25 an hour and they have travelers that have worked there years they stick you with making 3x your hourly wage. It’s an industry just asking for what they have coming their way.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2517 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:25 pm to
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Nursing is by no means an intellectually vigorous field. Engineers, scientists, physicians, could all piss on nurses.


I think you’re underestimating some of the course work nurses have to endure in nursing school, especially nurse anesthetists
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:26 pm to
I’m just amazed hospitals have been as stubborn as they have been. The nurses called their bluff and the hospitals lost, but still are refusing to take their medicine. They continue to shell out to the nursing agency companies out of spite it seems
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:28 pm to
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Men are less likely to bitch about their jobs compared to women because part of our masculine nature is to do things we hate and not complain.




Probably helps explain why men tend to die younger than women, on average, and tend to have more heart issues .
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
3765 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:29 pm to
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The $169/hr you quoted above is $351,520 for 52 weeks





So about tree fiddy ?
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2517 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:30 pm to
A nurse on r/nursing said it in a post
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2517 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:32 pm to
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Laugh all you want, but my wife works in the Neonatal intensive care unit at one of the best hospitals in the state and she is offered 0 paid maternity leave.


This is exactly why unions are a thing
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6279 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:33 pm to
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nurse anesthetists


They don't even take orgo.

GTFO .

The fact that people can pass drugs without any real chemistry background is fricking insane.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4561 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:34 pm to
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They continue to shell out to the nursing agency companies out of spite it seems


They have definitely been paying a high premium, but when you factor in that they don’t pay the temps for healthcare and long term benefits like retirement, then it actually gets much closer. The hospital also gets the leisure of bringing in or releasing nurses if their need changes. If you have permanent employees it’s not as simple, plus you have time and money invested in the permanent employees.

Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2517 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:34 pm to
Well what the frick do you want me to say then? The post came from an RN on a subreddit that consists of nurses posting on there
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2517 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:39 pm to
Pharmacology courses can substitute for organic chemistry.

You don’t have to be an MD to be educated about drug pharmacology. If doctors would quit having this superiority complex over nurse practitioners and acknowledge that there are a lot of knowledgeable NPs then there wouldn’t be such huge tensions between them in healthcare settings.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:39 pm to
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A lot of latino chicks who are into fitness work as RNs in California.


Latinas are my second favorite kind of woman.

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Nothing beats a fit Latino girl who has a plump arse.


I guess you have never tried staying warm with an Eastern European woman on a cold winter night.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33858 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:40 pm to
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reddit
oooof
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3066 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:40 pm to
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What’s wrong with unions?


Maybe because a business can't competitively price their products because the labor cost is too high?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4561 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:45 pm to
Here’s a Reddit post showing Kaiser’s 2023 pay scale (it was posted 10 months ago and your link was posted a year ago):

Reddit
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6279 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:59 pm to
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pharmacology can substitute for organic chemistry


Organic is the basis of pharmacology.

Without understanding drug structures, and basic reactions. You cannot understand mechanisms.

I've worked a decent bit of my career in the pharma end of chemical industry. These broads don't know shite about drugs.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8551 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:03 am to
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That’s CALIFORNIA pay. Obviously states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, and Florida would not pay anywhere near that amount.


Let me guess. You also believe McDonalds pays $75 an hour in California.
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