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re: President of NCAA proposes NIL rule change
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:22 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:22 pm to DeathByTossDive225
NCAA needs to put in a NIL cap.
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:46 pm to DeathByTossDive225
I think the idea of having schools pay the players would be to step in the direction of having salary caps. I don’t know if there would be anyway to police and enforce outside pay, but I imagine if the majority of schools want it, then it must be something like this.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:53 pm to DeathByTossDive225
If they’re getting paid directly from the school, do you make them pay their own way?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:54 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Are they state employees?
They'll have to take the good government ethics online class every year to learn that teachers are an exception to the rule against leaving food as gifts to be eaten outside the presence of the gift giver.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:55 pm to Tshirts
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I think the idea of having schools pay the players would be to step in the direction of having salary caps. I
The NCAA once had a salary cap placed on Grad Asst. The courts ruled that was illegal.
You can’t collude and place salary caps on your employees.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:02 pm to DeathByTossDive225
This news makes me feel something peculiar. I wonder if anyone else feels the same way.
I feel so thankful we got the GOAT 2019 team. That season felt like the very last breath of the college football I knew and loved growing up. Before NIL, before the new transfer portal rules, before the big realignment, and before COVID. It's bittersweet looking back at it and maybe it's a bad way of coping with the murky future of college athletics. However, it's a great memory worth holding on to. Won't ever forget it.
I feel so thankful we got the GOAT 2019 team. That season felt like the very last breath of the college football I knew and loved growing up. Before NIL, before the new transfer portal rules, before the big realignment, and before COVID. It's bittersweet looking back at it and maybe it's a bad way of coping with the murky future of college athletics. However, it's a great memory worth holding on to. Won't ever forget it.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:05 pm to el gato
It would have to Title IX
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:29 pm to DeathByTossDive225
If that’s the case then just do away with athletic scholarships and have them learn to pay their own way.
As much as I hate those bastards, this will have the irs foaming at the moth to start digging all over the place.
Welcome to the real world lil “student athletes”.
As much as I hate those bastards, this will have the irs foaming at the moth to start digging all over the place.
Welcome to the real world lil “student athletes”.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:47 pm to DSPurpleandGold
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In order for a PUBLIC university to manage those funds they must have some sort of control of them. For them to control those funds they would in some way have to become at least quasi-public funds.
Once that money enters that area, every elected member of a state’s legislature is going to try to exercise some sort of control. There will be those who will attempt to tap them to shore up some budget shortfall. Others will try to use them to create some new entitlement. They will also be used as leverage to get someone to vote a certain way or they will vote against dispersing the funds.
This is probably the least concerning aspect of the proposal. The LSU athletic department has a nearly $200 million budget right now. If politicians were going to try to raid the coffers, there is ample opportunity.
They don’t, because A) the athletic department is self-funded and B) it would be a political third rail. If the AD were operating on actual state funds I might agree. But it isn’t, and I would not expect any player compensation proposal to change that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:49 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Wouldn’t this be the opposite? With this comes an inevitable salary cap which I have no doubt in my mind LSU could be competitive with. Wouldn’t they let us use TV money and stuff for that?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:49 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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That would allow schools to directly pay athletes
Death of college football. I’d quit watching. Might as well just watch the NFL.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:53 pm to LSU_Legz
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You think LSU can't afford to pay like other places?!
No LSU cannot.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:55 pm to DeathByTossDive225
It wouldn’t stop others from paying atheletes like what’s going on now.
I don’t think it would have much of a noticeable impact to the sport. Might help the atheletes.
I don’t think it would have much of a noticeable impact to the sport. Might help the atheletes.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:55 pm to evil cockroach
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I can't see how Universities can offer more NIL money to certain groups. It has to be equal. I don't see this one working out. Now, university booster clubs should be able to say "we're not the university", but I'm sure it'll be challenge in court.
That’s exactly how the NIL collectives get around it today. Since they aren’t technically run by the university, they don’t fall under Title IX. As soon as the university is directly involved, that changes things.
Honestly Title IX might be the biggest problem facing any “amateurism reform” for the NCAA. Even if the NCAA completely legalized direct payment to players, Title IX compliance would still be a huge hurdle. As long as those payments have to be split up evenly between men and women’s sports, the schools won’t realistically be able to pay “market value” for a top QB without simultaneously paying ridiculously above market value for a bunch of female athletes.
On one hand, it could be viewed as a feature that keeps things from getting out of control. On the other hand, it just incentivizes under-the-table payments or third parties.. which is what we have right now anyway.
I’m not sure how the NCAA gets anywhere on the compensation issue without some sort of legislative relief (one way or another) in the long run.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:55 pm to DeathByTossDive225
If the schools got directly involved then A. The players become employees subject to taxes and everything that comes with employee status and B. Would implicate title IV where they would have to provide equal funds to the female athletes which just isn’t sustainable.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:58 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Would be one way to get a handle on the out of control transfer portal, that is for sure.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:01 pm to DeathByTossDive225
It really is comical that they are flying by the seat of their pants with this. Half of every new thought goes into action. There is no foresight into any of the repercussions that follow. It's bad....and getting worse
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:05 pm to DeathByTossDive225
It is interesting. If an athlete can be employed (NIL), why can’t a school employ the athlete? Interesting take.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:14 pm to Shaq4prez
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It really is comical that they are flying by the seat of their pants with this. Half of every new thought goes into action. There is no foresight into any of the repercussions that follow. It's bad....and getting worse
I think they (the NCAA, politicians, coaches, etc.) were genuinely caught off guard by the impact that the portal had combined with the NIL, and now they're scrambling to regain some control before they lose the ability to do so.
The title IX issue is what will kill a lot of programs if you just pay the kids directly IMO. If you have to pay women's teams the same as your football, mens bball and in some places hockey/baseball teams it'll cost much more than it's worth. Places like Stanford, Northwestern, Wake Forest, practically every school in the northeast, will face an existential problem in athletics.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:06 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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President of NCAA proposes NIL rule change
This it 100% inaccurate. The NCAA has absolutely no control over NIL laws and can not in anyway limit or control what an athlete (or any other American citizen) can be compensated for their name image or likeness. Even their current rule prohibiting NIL deals to be tied to an athlete playing a sport at a specific school will likely be challenged in court at some point.
What the President of the NCAA is proposing is for schools to be able to pay athletes in addition to what they can negotiate for their NIL. Two entirely different things.
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