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re: "Masters of the Air" | WWII Miniseries | Apple+ Trailer
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:34 am to Frac the world
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:34 am to Frac the world
quote:and im sure the people who just got their entire lives bombed to shite, who have been the recipients of years of propaganda, where probably willing to take the time to sit and think and add context and consider the big picture
Germany started it, frick those citizens. They got what they deserved. It’s not like we Pearl Harbor’ed their asses. Their fanatical country tried to take over a whole continent, what’d they expect? Our boys to drop chocolate bars on their towns?
As the great lyricist Lil Jon said, don’t start no shite won’t be no shite!
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:01 am to WestCoastAg
These were the same German citizens who smelled burnt flesh coming from the crematoriums yet still denied they knew what was happening. Frick em. They had it coming.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:40 am to lsubruce
I’ve read different accounts from 8th and 9th Air Force men that if you had to bail out over Germany, you hoped a soldier found you first before a civilian did. There are plenty of stories of Allied airmen being killed by civilian mobs. And you’re right…I’d probably do the same if I were one of them.
I asked my great-uncle about the civilian side of things. He just shrugged his shoulders and said as far as he was concerned, they were all Nazis. When you’re piloting an aircraft that is being shot at by ack-ack and fending off Messerschmitts, you’ve got enough to worry about.
I asked my great-uncle about the civilian side of things. He just shrugged his shoulders and said as far as he was concerned, they were all Nazis. When you’re piloting an aircraft that is being shot at by ack-ack and fending off Messerschmitts, you’ve got enough to worry about.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:53 pm to TheFonz
So, the female Brit at Oxford was clearly a German spy, right?
Is that what we were supposed to take away from her pointed questions about his background?
Is that what we were supposed to take away from her pointed questions about his background?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:47 pm to Frac the world
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Germany started it, frick those citizens. They got what they deserved. It’s not like we Pearl Harbor’ed their asses. Their fanatical country tried to take over a whole continent, what’d they expect? Our boys to drop chocolate bars on their towns?
You’re entirely missing the point. What he’s saying is how the Germans reacted was completely natural. Their homes and community just got bombed into oblivion. Very shortly after that they see bomber pilots walk through their streets. They don’t care if they’re American or British, who started the war, or why. They reacted in an extremely visceral, reactive, and natural way.
And FWIW, I’m not denying that German citizens by and large supported the Nazis, started the war, and reaped what they sowed. I don’t weep for what happened to them. Doesn’t mean how they reacted at that particular time wasn’t a very natural reaction - again, not right or wrong, just natural. Similar scenes fill history books from every century and every continent and every culture.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:40 am to Jack Ruby
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Is that what we were supposed to take away from her pointed questions about his background?
I had to look it up. In Crosby's memoir, he guesses she is some sort of intelligence officer or covert ops. She could have possibly been stationed at Bletchley Park as part of the code breakers there.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:54 am to RollTide1987
Is there any woke or LGBTQ tranny stuff in the show? I might give this thing a shot if not
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:17 am to Boodis Man
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Is there any woke or LGBTQ tranny stuff in the show? I might give this thing a shot if not
No, I mean this DOES take place in WWII, so not as of yet.
But unfortunately, last night's episode DID have a scene where a folk singer at a British bar is playing that commie Woody Guthrie's song, "Tear the Fascists Down" with lyrics like these:
"That's the union that'll tear the fascists down"
"While the Russians fight on across the Don"
"So, I thank the Soviets and the mighty Chinese vets"
Like most of the commies in America, Guthrie wanted to have nothing to do with the war originally, regardless of what was being whispered about the Jews in Nazi Germany. It wasn't until their idols in Soviet Russia were double crossed and attacked that the war became a cause celebre' for the fellow travelers, who of course instead of couching it in terms of nations vs. nations framed it as socialists/communists/unions defeating fascists. They're the same type of people who today try and downplay the American role in the war and say that it was the Soviet Union that was REALLY the deciding factor...(smh)
I'm sure some left-wing Hollywood type made sure to slip that song in there, which kid of sucked.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 1:58 pm to BRich
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They're the same type of people who today try and downplay the American role in the war and say that it was the Soviet Union that was REALLY the deciding factor...(smh)
Pointing out the fact 75-80% of the Wehrmacht was on the Eastern Front, getting destroyed by the communists, makes one a communist?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:15 pm to BuckyCheese
Without the 100s of thousands of trucks and support vehicles we supplied them (not to mention the tanks, fighter planes, artillery, etc), the Red Army would still be huddled outside Moscow. Their logistical system was horrendous as is. Without the trucks, they would have starved and run out of fuel. If they were forced to build their own, how many T34s/Sturmoviks/Stalin's organs don't get made?
The "the Soviets won the war" crowd never factor in how dependent they were on the US and UK.
The "the Soviets won the war" crowd never factor in how dependent they were on the US and UK.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:17 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:Here’s your Order of Lenin medal Ivan.
Pointing out the fact 75-80% of the Wehrmacht was on the Eastern Front, getting destroyed by the communists, makes one a communist?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:48 pm to BRich
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But unfortunately, last night's episode DID have a scene where a folk singer at a British bar is playing that commie Woody Guthrie's song, "Tear the Fascists Down" with lyrics like these:
That's because it was a commie party that Crosby and the British chick snuck into. The posters on the wall were a dead giveaway.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:37 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Pretty solid episode 6. I'm really starting to like this series. More so than I thought I would after the first episode
This is where I’m at. It was a rocky start to me but it’s settled in nicely and I look forward to it each week
Posted on 2/25/24 at 6:29 pm to Lawyered
I am very happy w how the series has progressed. First cpl of episodes were thin but starting w 4 it has been solid. Also looking fwd to it each week
Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:58 pm to OntarioTiger
Me too. Although, I’m pretty bummed that it’ll only be 9 episodes. They couldn’t have squeezed out 1 more to make 10!
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:21 pm to RollTide1987
most of the storylines in this show i find uninteresting but i am enjoying the scenes with germans/nazis in it. this last episode had some good ones especially the hans landa knock off
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:27 pm to RollTide1987
What happened to the airman that was on the run with the resistance in Belgium? Did I miss something? Feels like that storyline disappeared.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:33 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The "the Soviets won the war" crowd never factor in how dependent they were on the US and UK.
You obviously don't know that I have pointed out the same things in other threads over the years here.
However, building a bunch of stuff isn't quite the same as losing millions of citizens and soldiers. Losses our people never would have accepted.
Yes, our manufacturing guaranteed Germany would lose. The Soviets did far more of the heavy lifting when it came to actual battle. ie-Killing Germans while getting lot of their own killed as well.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:03 am to Handsome Pete
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What happened to the airman that was on the run with the resistance in Belgium? Did I miss something? Feels like that storyline disappeared.
Just a narrative trick. They will come back to him once you’ve forgotten about him. Same thing they did with Buck. Writers have been using this method for centuries. You’ll see him again!
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:32 am to sledgehammer
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Me too. Although, I’m pretty bummed that it’ll only be 9 episodes. They couldn’t have squeezed out 1 more to make 10!
Yeah it sucks we didn't get an episode showing their training like we did with Band of Brothers. The 100th BG was quite the shitshow before they were allowed to deploy according to Crosby's book.
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