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Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:24 am to goatmilker
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War is not fair.
Should it's depiction be any less.
For entertainment in a TV series? Yeah, pretty much.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:04 pm to CocomoLSU
Incredible series: Here is an interview from a Louisiana WW2 B-17 pilot who is my relative.
Incrediblely, his whole crew survived the war and used to have reunions every 5 years or something. Bill became a pharmacist in Franklinton and was married and had a great life.
Bill Babingtons interview
Incrediblely, his whole crew survived the war and used to have reunions every 5 years or something. Bill became a pharmacist in Franklinton and was married and had a great life.
Bill Babingtons interview
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:53 pm to 0x15E
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Can someone explain why they killed off the main character off screen?
He flies off into the sunset on a mission and at the end of the episode it’s all sad faces that no one from the 100th returned.
If he is alive, they lead up with no suspense by not showing the bombing run he went down in.
Weird thing to do to a main character.
you do realize all these main characters were real people? It's pretty easy to find out what happened to them with a quick Google search
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:27 pm to The Eric
Over 30,000 young aviators were killed in the U.S. trying to learn how to fly warbirds.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:35 pm to TigersnJeeps
The turning point was when they put wing drop tanks on the P-51’s
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:36 pm to Ncook
15k, but still a lot and a group that is usually overlooked (of course not by their families).
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:39 pm to BigBinBR
2 days !!!!!
Buddy, Ford was rolling a finished B-24 off the assembly line at Willow Run every hour !!!!!!
They built half of the 18,000 B-24’s that were built.
More B-24’s built than any other aircraft.
Buddy, Ford was rolling a finished B-24 off the assembly line at Willow Run every hour !!!!!!
They built half of the 18,000 B-24’s that were built.
More B-24’s built than any other aircraft.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:51 pm to Ncook
Last episode did an incredible job of showing how awful it was to sit in a tin box and just take death coming for you.
Just like sitting in a foxhole during artillery, these boys could not veer off course during flak or fighters.
They had to fly straight to the bomb location no matter what, just sit there and take metal shrapnel the size of softballs exploding and hoping it didn’t rip your body up. Then endure machine gun fire with shells the size of cigars from fighters without evasive maneuvers cause they had to stay on target.
Rosie only maneuvered like he did because there was nobody left, 10 guys to a fort, over 100 men were gone from the group and they were the only ones left.
Show is going to focus on the guys who bailed primarily from here on out. Without spoiling it, having read the true stories of the men it’s based on, it should get very emotional and hard to watch.
These bomber boys had it as bad as anybody else when in action. Sure they didn’t have to sleep on front lines but when on mission it was awful. Swap sitting in a foxhole on the ground in Bastogne, for sitting in a plane 10k feet up. Temp was colder, had nowhere to bail out and run in a panic, on top of if you bailed you were in German territory no matter which direction you ran.
At least Army boys on the ground had a “line” of enemy vs friendlies if they lost it. Pilots were hosed no matter what if they bailed
Just like sitting in a foxhole during artillery, these boys could not veer off course during flak or fighters.
They had to fly straight to the bomb location no matter what, just sit there and take metal shrapnel the size of softballs exploding and hoping it didn’t rip your body up. Then endure machine gun fire with shells the size of cigars from fighters without evasive maneuvers cause they had to stay on target.
Rosie only maneuvered like he did because there was nobody left, 10 guys to a fort, over 100 men were gone from the group and they were the only ones left.
Show is going to focus on the guys who bailed primarily from here on out. Without spoiling it, having read the true stories of the men it’s based on, it should get very emotional and hard to watch.
These bomber boys had it as bad as anybody else when in action. Sure they didn’t have to sleep on front lines but when on mission it was awful. Swap sitting in a foxhole on the ground in Bastogne, for sitting in a plane 10k feet up. Temp was colder, had nowhere to bail out and run in a panic, on top of if you bailed you were in German territory no matter which direction you ran.
At least Army boys on the ground had a “line” of enemy vs friendlies if they lost it. Pilots were hosed no matter what if they bailed
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:54 pm to Frac the world
Just started this tonight.
Really like it so far.
Really like it so far.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:31 pm to MAROON
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you do realize all these main characters were real people? It's pretty easy to find out what happened to them with a quick Google search
What if I don’t want to?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:46 pm to 0x15E
Disclaimer: It took balls to do what those pilots did
I think one issues that makes this tough is the bravery comparison between a bomber pilot and an infantry man
Heroics in infantry took thought and precision under pressure. What Winters did when he took over that German machine nest during D day took thought, precision, and the ability to perform a detailed almost impossible task in the face of death. His maneuvers were so precise and calculated it’s still taught in West Point today
What these bomber pilots are doing is going up, flying straight and praying. It’s a complete different take on being cool under pressure/ heroics. It honestly angers me to see how top military brass treated these pilots.
But these last two episodes I have loved after not liking it to start
I think one issues that makes this tough is the bravery comparison between a bomber pilot and an infantry man
Heroics in infantry took thought and precision under pressure. What Winters did when he took over that German machine nest during D day took thought, precision, and the ability to perform a detailed almost impossible task in the face of death. His maneuvers were so precise and calculated it’s still taught in West Point today
What these bomber pilots are doing is going up, flying straight and praying. It’s a complete different take on being cool under pressure/ heroics. It honestly angers me to see how top military brass treated these pilots.
But these last two episodes I have loved after not liking it to start
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:41 pm to lsupride87
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Disclaimer: It took balls to do what those pilots did
Watching Episode 3 now.
frick. That.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:59 pm to BuckyCheese
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For those wondering how they knew the guy was a German in episode four, he wrote the date the European way. day/month/year.
What?
That's how we write the date in the military.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:19 pm to lsupride87
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What these bomber pilots are doing is going up, flying straight and praying. It’s a complete different take on being cool under pressure/ heroics. It honestly angers me to see how top military brass treated these pilots.
Exactly, they had to sit there and just fricking take it. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. In a way almost worse than infantry. Infantry could at least retreat and get court martialed as a coward and live, even if they were labeled as a coward and sentenced they lived. These crews had no choice.
But also, bomber command had no other strategy, the P-51 was the game changer. Fighters couldn’t escort them all the way but we HAD to bomb Germany. Until that fighter came out, and then the B-29 which flew higher than enemy fighters could go, we had no alternative.
New episode snuck in tonight for me btw, don’t know if that was an error on Apple or not
This episode really pissed me off. frickin Krauts deserved everything they got
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:47 pm to Frac the world
Episode 6 is live for me, too. 
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:14 pm to TideSaint
***Spoilers**
For those that have watched the latest episode I can finally share this, a neat little bit of trivia, Buck and Bucky were in the same camp that The Great Escape happened in. They weren’t part of the escape through the tunnel, but it’s cool knowing now and watching McQueen, Bronson, Coburn, Garner during that movie and knowing that the real Buck and Bucky were in there too.
For those that have watched the latest episode I can finally share this, a neat little bit of trivia, Buck and Bucky were in the same camp that The Great Escape happened in. They weren’t part of the escape through the tunnel, but it’s cool knowing now and watching McQueen, Bronson, Coburn, Garner during that movie and knowing that the real Buck and Bucky were in there too.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:41 pm to Frac the world
The Nazi interrogator in Episode 6 is the same actor that played Jonas (teen years) in Dark. He's German in real life so it makes sense.
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