re: Sadly, Americans just love their baby killing

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Remember when Trump called heartbeat bills terrible?

Pepperidge Farms remembers

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The Heartbeat bill passed in Ohio gave significant fodder to the pro-Issue 1 crowd for their ad campaign.

The 5 week was dependent on the overturn of Roe?

Is the law that passed tonight stricter than what was in place 7 years ago or so?

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I think abortion is wrong but I also realize that mostly Dems have abortions so that's quite a conundrum

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Biggest reason I don’t really care about abortion. The US would be 50 years closer to it’s upcoming hellscape if not for abortion.

Here is the language for OH Amendment 1

• Establish ni the Constitution of the State of Ohio an individual right ot one's own reproductive medical treatment, including but not limited ot abortion;
• Create legal protections for any person or entity that assists a person with receiving reproductive medical treatment, including but not limited to abortion;
• Prohibit the State from directly or indirectly burdening, penalizing, or prohibiting abortion before an unborn child si determined to be viable, unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means;
• Grant a pregnant woman's treating physician the authority ot determine, on a case-by-case basis, whether an unborn child si viable;
• Only allow the State to prohibit an abortion after an unborn child is determined by a pregnant woman's treating physician to be viable and only fi the physician does not consider the abortion necessary to protect the pregnant woman's life or health; and
• Always allow an unborn child to be aborted at any stage of pregnancy, regardless of viability if, ni the treating physician's determination, the abortion si necessary ot protect the pregnant woman's life or health.


The language is vague about what one own reproductive medical treatment is beyond abortion, Will this allow minors to transition without parental consent? Minors to have an abortion without consent of a parent? It is not clear. Also it puts the determinants of viability up to the the attendant physician. So all you would need for a late term abortion is a willing physician.

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States have the right to decide. That is the way it should be.

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States have the right to decide to kill babies. That is the way it should be?

I think republicans need to come off this, at least as a talking point.

I am as diehard republican as they come, but I could absolutely not give two shits if someone gets an abortion. Would it be better if there was forethought to not get pregnant, yes. Adoption, yes. But honestly, it’s just not realistic to think people are smart enough to make sound decisions. Republicans need to move on.

The talking point is costing elections.

Same. Demographics would be where they are now, but 40 years ago. We’d have turned into Brazil

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The good news is it shouldn't be a big issue next year IMO. I do think it hurt Rs last year.

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Yeah we should stop embracing morality because it’s a losing issue

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The talking point is costing elections.

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The fact that you think saving unborn children is just a cheap talking point.. you need to do some serious soul searching. I challenge anyone who “doesn’t give 2 shits” about it go look up what happens in a procedure. Watch videos of a late term abortion.