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Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Trading 1000 terrorists for one IDF soldier is what birthed this entire murder and snatch raid to begin with. If I'm Israel I would sacrifice the 200. Write them off. Dismantle Hamas with no regard for their safety. If you rescue some of them along the way, then that's a bonus. If you negotiate for the 200, it will spawn a whole new kidnap culture. Israel should kill 100 Hamas fighters for every prisoner taken
I know I’m not in the position to make these types of decisions, however you are correct, never negotiate with terrorist,,,,instead if they take 200, do something to them that their decendants will talk about for a 10,000 years,,,,,make it so bad that they will never do it again, and do it publicly, make it 10 levels of barbaric bad
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 6:59 am
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1863 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:06 pm to
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I mean, on the surface it sounds like a good deal. Trade 200 innocents for 6000 terrorists, right?


When Biden gave that latest relief money to Palestine the release of all hostages prior to getting the aid should’ve been the first demand in the negotiation.

But….nope. Just send them $100 million, whatever the number was.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17919 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 6:52 am to
It's rich Turkey talking about Israel being occupiers. The Turks themselves are an invasive group to what used to be called Anatolia.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
59677 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:12 am to
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Disturbing video from a pro-Palestine protest, yes those are fake baby body bags rolling around on their flag.

Just so people know what we're dealing with here
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 8:19 am
Posted by UCFACTS4LIFE
Member since Sep 2018
833 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:15 am to
Why is Turkey in NATO?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
21417 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:58 am to
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Why is Turkey in NATO?


It was convenient for SRBM and MRBM missile bases during the Cold War.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
14522 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:08 am to
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quote:Why is Turkey in NATO?


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It was convenient for SRBM and MRBM missile bases during the Cold War.


And the use of their airspace by our military.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
16890 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:51 am to
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Disturbing video from a pro-Palestine protest, yes those are fake baby body bags rolling around on their flag.

Just so people know what we're dealing with here


We're not or shouldn't be dealing with anything.

That barbarism is for Jews and Muslims to deal with. You can keep all that "we're" shite.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:55 am to
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We're not or shouldn't be dealing with anything.

That barbarism is for Jews and Muslims to deal with. You can keep all that "we're" shite.


Have you not seen the protests in this country and the volume of Muslim immigrants taken in the last decade? We are and will be dealing with it whether we like it or not. The time to stop it was at the point of the migrants/refugees if you want to make the isolationist argument.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
59615 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:22 am to
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We're not or shouldn't be dealing with anything.

We won't have a choice. You can be against involvement in any war over there, but we already have a brewing problem at home. It may not be quite as bad as what the Europeans are facing, but it is an issue that won't just go away.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
2582 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:02 pm to
You live on planet earth and things that happen over there influence us over here.

Additionally, there are people over here who sympathize with these groups

We live in a global society, and your personal inability to reconcile this fact does not change the reality
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
146784 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:41 pm to
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We're not or shouldn't be dealing with anything.

That barbarism is for Jews and Muslims to deal with. You can keep all that "we're" shite
hell yea brother

Lets bring back 1930s isolationism
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
59615 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:58 pm to
@sentdefender
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Muslims within the Republic of Dagestan in Southwestern Russia are currently Storming the International Airport in the Region in order to reportedly “Kill Israelis and Jews” after Rumors began that an Israeli Aircraft was preparing to land at the Airport; this has been going in for the last several hours, with Pro-Hamas Supports having Stormed a number of Hotels and other Public Locations across the Region on the Hunt for Israelis.


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Russian Police have Zero Control of the Situation with these Terrorists at the “Flamingo” Hotel being able to go Room to Room searching for Israelis.


Xwitter
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
37849 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:03 pm to
Are they checking foreskins?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4146 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Btw im assuming protesters are mostly Daghestanis.

There’s massive protests ongoing at Makhatkala airport in Daghestan.

Demonstrators look for Jews in the area to arrest them (if not worse)

It's a bit wild in Russia lately

LINK

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Rally in russia in support of palestine. Protesters shout: “kill, kill, Jews”

It’s interesting that, as we all know, rallies are prohibited in russia, but as you can see... they are not prohibited for everyone

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In this video demonstrators arrested a man they believe to be Jewish.

They seized his passport.

On telegram, Duma deputy Ilya Ponomarev recommends "making him curse Israel on camera".

It seems that part of Russia has become completely historical, and that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is being exported beyond the West.

LINK

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A crowd shouting "Allahu Akbar" bursts into Makhatchkala airport in search of Jews according to local reports.

Some airport employees try to hide in their offices

LINK

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The crowd broke through the runway of Makhachkala airport and is looking for a “plane with Jews.”

Security forces have arrived, and the mobile connection in the airport area is reportedly jammed, hindering the crowd's ability to coordinate their actions.

LINK

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The Russian National Guard and Hundreds of additional Security Forces have now been Deployed to Makhachkala International Airport in Dagestan, in an attempt to gain Control of the Muslim Rioters who have now Flooded into the Airport searching for Israeli Passengers.

LINK

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Flights inbound to Makhachkala airport in the Dagestan region of Russia appear to be holding after a crowd stormed the airport searching for "Jews". A flight from Tel Aviv landed at the airport approximately 2 hours ago.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
101989 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:24 pm to
Religion of Peace
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4146 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
16890 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:43 pm to
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You live on planet earth and things that happen over there influence us over here.

Additionally, there are people over here who sympathize with these groups

We live in a global society, and your personal inability to reconcile this fact does not change the reality




The things that happen over there are utterly pointless on a global scale. These people hate each other and they always will.

Both the Israeli and Palestinian are mired in their own victimhood and neither want to surrender it. In fact, both constantly jocky for favored victim status. They're both enculturated to be victims. It's their identity and as a result, these conflicts will never end. What is Israel if not a victim? What would they lose from the United States if they were no longer victims?

All of this is nothing more than yet another prelude to a Middle Eastern corporate war. That's it.

The Middle East is good for nothing else other than manufactured wars and energy. What else could that region possibly bring to the global table? And that includes the Israelis, what do they bring?

Other regions of the world bring art, culture, science and industry. The Middle East brings angst, violence, victimhood, global tension, barbarism and savagery. And make no mistake about it, Israel is very much a part of that.

The drumbeat of war has picked up pace in this country. We're so predictable, so easy to manipulate.

Just keep this in mind though as you all get on board with direct American intervention. Our military will not be fighting for the United States and her people. It will be fighting for Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, GE and every other publicly traded military contractor in this country.

This Government and its corporate handlers want American bombs to fall, American missles flying and American boots on the ground. They'll get it too and when it's over, you'll see the ridiculous futility of it and regret ever supporting it.

For decades now the Middle East has been created and cultivated by the United States and her corporate allies for war. It's a cash cow and to solve these horrid problems over there is to watch billions in future profits evaporate. It will never happen.



This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
2582 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:53 pm to
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The things that happen over there are utterly pointless on a global scale.


I quit reading after this, just fyi
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
59615 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:09 pm to
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The things that happen over there are utterly pointless on a global scale.

Do you honestly believe this?
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