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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:09 pm to Hateradedrink
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:09 pm to Hateradedrink
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Additionally, there are people over here who sympathize with these groups
The issue here is that if they agree with those groups they fundamentally oppose the ideals of the United States. Therefore they should be denied access and deported….plain and simple!
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Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:13 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Pandy Fackler
Yeah, all the Israelis I know act just like ghetto queens playing for sympathy/victimhood…….
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:18 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The things that happen over there are utterly pointless on a global scale.
Do you honestly believe this?
On a grand scale, yes. If I believed for one single moment the American Government, Israeli Government and the entirety of the Muslim region wanted these conflicts solved, I would support it, but they don't. The region serves no other American purpose than energy and war profit. Especially war profit.
In the absence of war, the region is worthless. It's only value is war.
Intervention is pointless there because it simply won't matter. American soldiers, sailors and airmen will die but my investment portfolio will improve.
The region is cultivated for corporate wars and it won't end.
Once Americans start needlessly dying, you'll come around and see how pointless that region is as well.
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:28 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Yeah, all the Israelis I know act just like ghetto queens playing for sympathy/victimhood…….
Israeli Jews hold American favored victim status and they'll never surrender it, especially to the Palestinians. To surrender their victimhood and have some measure of lasting peace is to also surrender countless billions in American aid.
It's time for Americans to consider the possibility that Israel has what it wants in its relationship with the Palestinians.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:31 pm to Pandy Fackler
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On a grand scale, yes. If I believed for one single moment the American Government, Israeli Government and the entirety of the Muslim region wanted these conflicts solved, I would support it, but they don't. The region serves no other American purpose than energy and war profit. Especially war profit.
Fair enough. I will counter with the fact that the whole "citizen of the world" movement bullshite makes this mean more than you're willing to admit. Acknowledging as much doesn't equate to supporting wholesale, boots on the ground war for the US. We have problems brewing. What is happening there has far-reaching implications here.
ETA: I will note again that your fellow "Americans" support and cheer for this:
What Hamas did
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:45 pm to LegendInMyMind
@sentdefender
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The Russian National Guard and Security Forces have now Stormed the Tarmac at Makhachkala International Airport in Dagestan and are Mass Arresting any of the Rioters who did not Flee.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Fair enough. I will counter with the fact that the whole "citizen of the world" movement bullshite makes this mean more than you're willing to admit. Acknowledging as much doesn't equate to supporting wholesale, boots on the ground war for the US. We have problems brewing. What is happening there has far-reaching implications here.
ETA: I will note again that your fellow Americans support and cheer for this:
What Hamas did
Yeah, so.
It's a small minority made up of religious savages, ignorant college kids, trannies and queers.
And if we don't want Americans succumbing to this crazy shite, then that's our cultural problem we need to solve here and if we can't solve it, then shame on us.
None of what you're seeing here in the United States means we should drop one American bomb, launch one American missle or put one set of American boots on the ground.
You want to know why that region is utterly pointless? Because acts of futility are always pointless.
This post was edited on 10/29/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:51 pm to Pandy Fackler
You have it all figured out there, cap. Thanks for the run-down.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:57 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You have it all figured out there, cap. Thanks for the run-down.
You're welcome.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The Russian National Guard and Security Forces have now Stormed the Tarmac at Makhachkala International Airport in Dagestan and are Mass Arresting any of the Rioters who did not Flee.
Those Hajiji’s gonna disappear and the Russians won’t bat an eye about it. They learned after Cheneya that religious extremists are not to be tolerated….something we ought to have learned a long time ago.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:50 pm to Pandy Fackler
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…acts of futility are always pointless
I learned long, long ago that the problem of Jews, the state of Israel, the Arabs and Mohammedans was insoluble.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 4:24 pm to ABearsFanNMS
quote:Russia has a long and contentious relationship with Muslims based on their time as tributes of the Golden hoarde. The onion domes on the Kremlin basilica represent the turbans of Muslim leaders conquered primarily by Ivan Grozny.
Those Hajiji’s gonna disappear and the Russians won’t bat an eye about it. They learned after Cheneya that religious extremists are not to be tolerated….something we ought to have learned a long time ago
When the are strong, they conquer them.
When they are weak they placate them and become useful to each other.
Right now Russia is weak and vulnerable to both Chinese and Iranian influence on their southern border on either side of the Caspian.
Putin will let them run amok for a while and as payment the mullahs will provide him with platoons in Ukraine.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 4:56 pm to I20goon
Lots of resources in the Mediterranean
Posted on 10/29/23 at 5:33 pm to Pandy Fackler
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We're not or shouldn't be dealing with anything. That barbarism is for Jews and Muslims to deal with. You can keep all that "we're" shite
Except that these sub human beasts are in OUR country
Posted on 10/29/23 at 5:40 pm to DabosDynasty
@Schizpintel
Xwitter
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Updated list of ships.
Warships from the following countries underway or deployed
USS Mount Whitney LCC-20
Ford Carrier Strike Group
USS Gerald R. Ford CVN-78
USS Thomas Hudner DDG-116
USS Ramage DDG-61
USS Carney DDG-64
USS Roosevelt DDG-80
USS Normandy CG-60
Ike Carrier Strike Group
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN-69
USS Gravely DDG-107
USS Mason DDG-87
ITS Virginio Fasan F-591
USS Philippine Sea CG-58
Bataan ARG
USS Bataan LHD-5
USS Mesa Verde LPD-19
USS Carter Hall LSD-50
Not Assigned
USS McFaul DDG-74
USS Arleigh Burke DDG-51
USS Paul Ignatius DDG-117
USS Bulkeley DDG-84
ITS Paolo Thaon di Revel (P-430)
ITS Pietro Venuti (S-528)
San Giorgio-class amphibious transport dock
USNS ships
USNS Hershel "Woody" Williams ESB-4
USNS Laramie T-AO 203
USNS Medgar Evers T-AKE 13
USNS Yuma T-EPF-8
USNS Trenton T-EFP-5
UNIFIL Maritime Task Force
HS Adrias F-459
TCG Heybeliada F-511
FGS Erfurt F-262
FGS Oldenburg F-263
BNS Sangram F-113
KRI Frans Kaisiepo 368
FGS Baden-Württemberg F-222
Enroute FGS Baden-Wuerttemberg (F-222) which will replace FGS Erfurt. When this happens FGS Erfurt will go to Standing NATO Maritime Group 2
Standing NATO Maritime Group 2
HMS Duncan D-37
ITS Carlo Margottini F-592
ESPS Méndez Núñez F-104
TCG Yavuz F-240
HDMS Niels Juel F-363
HS Psara F-454
FGS Frankfurt am Main A-1412
ESPS Patiño A-14
Littoral Response Group South
RFA Argus A-135
RFA Lyme Bay L-3007
Tonnerre "ARG"
FS Tonnerre L-9014
FS Surcouf F-711
FS Alsace D-656
Along with Submarines and other support ships
Work in progress will update daily.
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Last update for today.
Updated Map of US Navy and Allies in the Mediterranean and Red Sea.
Corrections:
USS Laboon did not cross the straights yesterday tracker code was for USS Philippine Sea.
Updated all sources used
Changes since yesterday
ITS Paolo Thaon di Revel (P-430)
A San Giorgio class amphibious transport dock announced as getting deployed to Eastern Mediterranean
IKE CSG traveling off the Tunisian Coast.
Warships from the following countries underway or deployed in the Mediterranean currently.
Does not include vessels currently partaking in various naval exercises such as Dynamic Mariner 23
Xwitter
Posted on 10/29/23 at 6:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
So in the last week, give or take, Germany is saying they’re closed for refugees/migrants, they’re going to begin deporting the ones they already have, and now European society and military needs to get fit for war in Europe. The fact it’s Germany of all European countries saying it after this long period of pacifism, including direct pacifism to Russia over the last couple of decades, is concerning.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:22 pm to DabosDynasty
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:34 pm to DabosDynasty
yikes
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:42 pm to DabosDynasty
I can’t even put into words what I feel is happening, but this seems both different and bigger than anything we’ve seen in quite some time.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:44 pm to DabosDynasty
Armed clashes are ongoing in Jenin in the West Bank. Being reported as significant fighting.
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