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re: Official: Tampa Bay Rays getting new ballpark in St. Petersburg, RENDERINGS Page 3

Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34821 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:09 pm to
Should have moved to Orlando
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203387 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:17 pm to
They have 4 teams blacked out in charlotte???? That’s just stupid… they expect people to drive to any of those places just to watch a gsme??? Dumb.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3356 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:44 pm to
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A retractable roof in central Florida from April - September will be opened about as many times as a dome would


Wonder how Florida minor leaguers manage? Man up buttercup. If the area can’t handle the temps then move the team to where there is a chance for success. Florida is not a baseball state. Poor fan support. Attendance for 2023…and one of those teams is moving.

#27 Tampa
#28 Kansas City
#29 Miami
#30 Oakland

Posted by McGruff21
Member since Aug 2023
372 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:46 pm to
Nobody will go even if you have a new stadium. Look at the Marlins attendance.

And 30,000 seater is really small for baseball.
Posted by Volsfan82169
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Aug 2016
2956 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Nashville is indeed a lock

It’s far from a lock.
1. The city/state would have to choke down the idea of paying for a second stadium. It is costing 2.1 billion to build the Titans new stadium. 500 million coming from the state, 710 million coming from bonds that will eventually be paid back (they pray) in PSL’s, another hotel tax increase and taxes on stadium pro shop and concession sales.

2. There is an existing Triple A park downtown, but other than adding outfield seats and perhaps more seats down the outfield lines, you MIGHT get it to around 20,000 capacity. It’s in an already pretty tight and constructed area and really can’t expand outward. So a new stadium would have to be built. You would be now completely abandoning a park that is less than 10 years old. (First Horizon Park opened in 2015)

3. The newly elected incoming mayor will not play ball (sorry for the pun) with MLB. Just months ago, he voted AGAINST the plan for the Titans Stadium. I’d be shocked if he even let plans off the ground knowing the city/state is leveraged to the hilt right now. He ran on a promise to make the city better for longtime residents, not for billionaires.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17358 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:20 pm to
It's not just the stadium. Part of the cost is building condos, offices, and shopping.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:27 pm to
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Nashville is indeed a lock.


Nashville White Sox. No way does declining Chicago keep them. Their current ballpark, especially the location makes it now the worst ballpark without resolution.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17358 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:34 pm to
It's not for the temperatures. The dome is for all the unpredictable storms that Tampa gets.
Posted by Andrew Topecchio
Member since Jul 2023
16 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:47 pm to
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Nashville White Sox. No way does declining Chicago keep them. Their current ballpark, especially the location makes it now the worst ballpark without resolution.


Arizona is pretty shitty. I went there for the WBC. Rain was coming through the retractable roof, which wasn’t working anyway. Scoreboards, concessions, etc…all outdated. It’s like they’re trying to let it get crappy.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:02 pm to
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Arizona is pretty shitty. I went there for the WBC. Rain was coming through the retractable roof, which wasn’t working anyway. Scoreboards, concessions, etc…all outdated. It’s like they’re trying to let it get crappy.


I’ve been to 23 of the current ballparks and will be scratching off #24 tomorrow. I rate White Sox dead last of my ballpark experiences, by far. It happened just this last Thursday BTW. F them and their bait and switch ticket policies. I’m sure my credit card company will get me a refund for the ticket, but those shiesty greed heads should pay for my parking as well.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:21 pm to
I lived in Clearwater, so Pinellas County where Tropicana is at. Traffic is crazy there. Was much easier/quicker to get to a Lightning game and they actually play in downtown Tampa.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:28 pm to
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The location makes it tougher for someone from Lakeland, but it is an easier drive from the south. Going across the Skyway from Sarasota/Bradenton is an easier commute than downtown Tampa, especially on weekdays.


Lakeland is a hike to St. Pete's. Sarasota/Bradenton and going across the Skyway would be hit or miss. I've been to all of these places. Especially when they shut down the Skyway when the weather gets bad.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Love sitting inside in perfect climate controlled seat, not going to lie.


I mean I did when it was an absolute downpour outside and you could hear it on the roof of the dome at Tropicana. But you are also talking about an area that is the sunshine and also the lightning capital of America. Hence the name for the NHL team.

Why not a retractable roof? Aren't they the only MLB team that can play inside without one?

They did just play in the World Series. That would be some nice weather there in late October.

I do know that you get downpours in Florida many days in the summer, but they usually don't last that long.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:45 pm to
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. Sarasota/Bradenton and going across the Skyway would be hit or miss


I have season tickets to Rays and Lightning, make the drive from downtown Sarasota all the time. Love Amalie’s location, but definitely quicker and easier to get to the Trop and St. Pete
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8347 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:54 am to
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Couldn’t Braves ownership block a team in Charlotte? NC


No, not even a remote chance of them affecting that decision. Besides, if that were the case, they could block Nashville too. They are each the same distance from Atlanta.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4047 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 6:16 am to
The same could've been said for all teams formed after 1960. It only takes a playoff run and you get a new generation of kids as fans for life.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17150 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 6:54 am to
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Salt Lake seems like a strong favorite for the second team


SLC has a minor league ballpark with one of the best views in baseball. They could legit build the most beautiful ballpark in MLB
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
4495 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 8:35 pm to
They are going from this:



To this:










Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14859 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:10 am to
Most of the people with disposable income near St Pete are diehard Yankees and Red Sox transplants. The "local" disposable income is in the Tampa burbs. An Ybor location would have killed it. This solves nothing in terms of attendance.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
2971 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:47 am to
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Love sitting inside in perfect climate controlled seat, not going to lie.


I almost froze in Miller Park while rainwater leaked through the roof and dripped on us.

They have to be done correctly.
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