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Can someone please explain why you would want the ball if you win the toss?

Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
1479 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:07 pm
The other team gets the ball after the half and if they score before the first half ends, they have a chance to win the possession battle.

It simply never makes sense to take the ball first. Even if you score 7, the other team can tie it and get the ball after half with the chance to go ahead.

If you kick it and your defense holds them to a tie or you're winning at half, you can either take the lead or expand it.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
52034 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

why you would want the ball if you win the toss


You dont.. tough to win the middle 8 if you're kicking at half
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:13 pm to
If your offense is clicking you can set the tone for the entire game with a quick touchdown

It really depends on what kind of team you’re rolling with and your opponent on which way you want to go on the coin toss
Posted by Notclamdip
Member since Mar 2023
940 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:13 pm to
Hubris.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3961 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:15 pm to
Funny, decades ago teams would almost always take the ball to go on offense first.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15383 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:17 pm to
I never understood why BK does this. The biggest opportunity for a point swing in a game is the last 2 minutes of the first half and first 2 minutes of the second half. Up to a 14 point swing.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30774 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:17 pm to
What if you take the ball at kickoff, score seven and end the half with another 7.

Force them to get predictable at second half and stop them with a 3nOut with only 1:45 gone?


I think it all adds up to the same thing. It comes down to who can execute better for 60 minutes.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1185 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:17 pm to
The analytics show the first team to score has a higher winning percentage. If you feel you can score on your first possession, you have given yourself a statistical advantage. In the NFL, the first team to score wins 65% of the time, which is a very statistically significant number, I’m not sure what it is in college.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 5:22 pm
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3886 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:18 pm to
If we punch that ball in within 2 mins on the first drive of the game against FSU, we are winning by 21 at half.

I had friends from FL texting me how good LSU was I was at the airport.

Catch 22. Go 3 and out or don’t score. Momentum immediately flips.

You could feel it against FSU. Regardless of the 2nd half
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36618 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:20 pm to
Weather.

Get momentum by making a statement.

Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:21 pm to
worked for Sean Payton & Drew Brees
Posted by EauxZark Tiger
Member since Feb 2023
302 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:49 pm to
When you have big dick Joe Burrow you want the ball.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4458 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:49 pm to
Early score to set the tone.
Good drive and punt to play field position.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4013 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:51 pm to
Before the clock changes I wanted it in the 2nd half. Now I want it as soon as possible, as often as possible.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22714 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:54 pm to
The best argument I can really see is if you have an uber-physical running game it gives you an early start on wearing down the defense. Send the defense into the half as bruised and battered as possible.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21687 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Funny, decades ago teams would almost always take the ball to go on offense first.


There used to not be an option to defer to the 2nd half. It was either kick or receive. The other team gets to choose to start the 2nd half. Sometimes captains screw up and say kick instead of defer. That's why every so often you'll see a team receive both halves.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3413 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:13 pm to
There is no logical reason. You always defer
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48207 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

In the NFL, the first team to score wins 65% of the time, which is a very statistically significant number, I’m not sure what it is in college.


NFL games have less scoring so it’s more important to score first
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40253 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:21 pm to
It doesn't matter, and you have to pick something.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19182 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

The other team gets the ball after the half and if they score before the first half ends, they have a chance to win the possession battle.

It simply never makes sense to take the ball first. Even if you score 7, the other team can tie it and get the ball after half with the chance to go ahead.

If you kick it and your defense holds them to a tie or you're winning at half, you can either take the lead or expand it.



There is some analytic that I dont personally agree with that says like the team that scores first wins 85% of the time or something like that. I heard that last year during one of our games. Evidently BK is the only one that ascribes to it.
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