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re: FDA panel says common over-the-counter decongestant doesn’t work

Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:19 pm to
Bronkaid and caffeine pills, breakfast of champions
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Pseudoephedrine > Phenylephrine


While this is true, pseudoephedrine wires you up pretty bad. I hate the way I feel on it. Have been taking phenylephrine the last few days and can say that it has definitely helped.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5911 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:20 pm to
In the 80s I could go get something OTC that would fix anything short of cancer/Aids. Now everything is safe and infective.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20461 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:22 pm to
This is why when I'm sick I go straight to the pharmacist counter, hand them my ID and say "Give me some Sudafed please. The GOOD kind..."
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Pseudoephedrine > Phenylephrine


This is true however phenylephrine works for many including myself. It isn't as strong as pseudoephedrine and why I will recommend it to folks that can't tolerate the stronger effects. Its also preferred in some because it doesn't send blood pressure up as much. Whatever, I guess. I'll still recommend it to certain patients regardless of what the FDA states.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79326 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:26 pm to
Nasal spray for 72 hours then one Sudafed cycle usually knocks out my complete block congestion.

I don't like Sudafed but it obviously works
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3559 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:29 pm to
Sudafed also causes short term impotence, which I learned the hard (soft?) way.
Posted by HillabeeBaw
Hillabee Reservoir
Member since May 2023
1535 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:32 pm to
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us this causes dementia like benadryl...
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:33 pm to
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What's in Mucinex? That crap never does a damn thing for me.
It depends on which version of mucinex you get.

It typically has Guaifenesin, which is an expectorant to help with chest congestion. It is also often combined with other active ingredients, sometimes pseudoephedrine (Mucinex D) which works and sometimes Phenylephrine (Mucinex PE) which does not work.
Posted by BruslyTiger
Waiting on 420...
Member since Oct 2003
4619 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:33 pm to
I take Mucinex D when I need a decongestant.

Active Ingredients:
Guaifenesin (600 mg)
Pseudoephedrine HCl (60 mg)

Guaifenesin is an expectorant that loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that relieves stuffy nose.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6524 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:35 pm to
Rule of thumb with cold medicine is that if you don’t have to show your ID for it, it doesn’t work.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12088 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:45 pm to
Well i can confirm the shite behind the counter works way better than the shite on the shelves.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29997 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:46 pm to
Check didn't clear.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

FDA panel says common over-the-counter decongestant doesn’t work
I would have to agree with this.

Every time I’m congested, I have to use nasal spray to get relief. Pill don’t do shite for me.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19728 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Phenylephrine gained popularity in the early 2000s as a replacement for pseudoephedrine, the decongestant used in Sudafed, which was moved behind the pharmacy counter in 2006 in an attempt to curb its misuse as an ingredient to make methamphetamine.


That was such a stupid move. It took an enormous amount of Sudafed to be used to make meth from what I've read. Then too, the Mexican cartels moved right in with "Mexican ice" and a lot more of it.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14898 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

The patient community requires and deserves medications that treat their symptoms safely and effectively and I don’t believe that this medication does.





I wish this standard extended to everything being pushed on us
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6547 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Allowing people to take a drug for decades that doesn’t work


It took me four hours to figure out it didn't work, so I resorted to scanning my ID for the good stuff.

But yeah, meth problem go bye bye. Not.

They don't care about patients. They also shitcanned effective asthma inhalers more than 15 years ago, because the propellant damaged the ozone layer.
Posted by UtDawg
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2023
323 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:43 pm to
What would happen if all drugs were legal?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22212 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:48 pm to
I dunno..... Alka seltzer cold opens my nose up nice. It's not as good as afrin though

But doing EC stack now and feel great
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6547 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Have been taking phenylephrine the last few days and can say that it has definitely helped.


Goddamn, the university research team proved that phenylephrine doesn't work any better than a placebo, and still you guys persist. You're just like the blockheads which thought phenylephrine could be used to create meth, and that's why it's being pulled.

quote:

The news outlet notes that the researchers previously pressed the FDA to remove phenylephrine products back in 2007 but the agency rebuffed them.


FDA doin work on behalf of the citizens. As usual.
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