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There is a reason young men are rejecting the Church and following guys like Andrew Tate
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:53 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:53 am
Just from listening to a few Andrew Tate interviews, as sad as this sounds, Tate delivers more virtue than you would get in about 90%+ of modern church pulpits (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical)
He actually tells young men not to look at porn, get your shite together, get in shape, get your finances in order, become a protector, lead your family.
And even tells women to be chaste, be nurturing, be innocent. (Yes, I am aware of his background, I am simply discussing his message, not necessarily his past behaviors)
How many Pastors or Priests are delivering this message? The modern church is completely feminized, the churches are ran by the women in the congregation, from the music, the skinny jean Pastors or weak, effeminate Priests. I call it Ned Flanders Christianity, all the messaging is just feel good, happy talk, basically self help lectures. It's all about "being nice", which is not a virtue and never mentioned anywhere in scriptures. Nice men are not necessarily good men.
Young men want to hear marching orders, battle plans, they want to know who the enemy is, how he presents himself in the world, and how they should be fighting him.
They are not getting this message inside the church. And this is why even deeply flawed individuals like Tate or even secular, non-religous individuals like Peterson or Rogan are where young men are gravitating to, and not the Church.
He actually tells young men not to look at porn, get your shite together, get in shape, get your finances in order, become a protector, lead your family.
And even tells women to be chaste, be nurturing, be innocent. (Yes, I am aware of his background, I am simply discussing his message, not necessarily his past behaviors)
How many Pastors or Priests are delivering this message? The modern church is completely feminized, the churches are ran by the women in the congregation, from the music, the skinny jean Pastors or weak, effeminate Priests. I call it Ned Flanders Christianity, all the messaging is just feel good, happy talk, basically self help lectures. It's all about "being nice", which is not a virtue and never mentioned anywhere in scriptures. Nice men are not necessarily good men.
Young men want to hear marching orders, battle plans, they want to know who the enemy is, how he presents himself in the world, and how they should be fighting him.
They are not getting this message inside the church. And this is why even deeply flawed individuals like Tate or even secular, non-religous individuals like Peterson or Rogan are where young men are gravitating to, and not the Church.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 6:00 am
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:58 am to burger bearcat
Or maybe the church hiding behind God to shield priests from man's law not to hurt children.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:14 am to burger bearcat
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they want to know who the enemy is
If tate actually told them, no wonder he got canceled
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:20 am to burger bearcat
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He actually tells young men not to look at porn, get your shite together, get in shape, get your finances in order, become a protector, lead your family. And even tells women to be chaste, be nurturing, be innocent. (Yes, I am aware of his background, I am simply discussing his message, not necessarily his past behaviors)
So he is a “do as I say, not as I do” kind of person.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:34 am to burger bearcat
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How many Pastors or Priests are delivering this message? The modern church is completely feminized, the churches are ran by the women in the congregation, from the music, the skinny jean Pastors or weak, effeminate Priests. I call it Ned Flanders Christianity, all the messaging is just feel good, happy talk, basically self help lectures. It's all about "being nice", which is not a virtue and never mentioned anywhere in scriptures. Nice men are not necessarily good men.
Not all are, but mainline denominations are, and it is for that very reason that you are seeing denominations like the Anglicans, Methodists, and others splitting and reforming their denominations all over the globe.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:38 am to burger bearcat
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He actually tells young men not to look at porn, get your shite together, get in shape, get your finances in order, become a protector, lead your family.
I don’t know any churches that wouldn’t promote this
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:43 am to burger bearcat
Anyone following Tate is a massive loser.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:43 am to burger bearcat
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rejecting the Church
I don't follow a church... I do my best to follow Jesus Christ and fail daily...
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:47 am to burger bearcat
Wow, for the population on this board that had "Islamic men" as their #1 out group/bad guy for 15+ years, I never thought I'd see those same people simping for an Islamic grifter 
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 6:48 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:52 am to burger bearcat
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How many Pastors or Priests are delivering this message?
The Priest who died yesterday was for sure delivering those messages.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:58 am to burger bearcat
I guess my church is not modern. Men are taught to be protectors of women, children, and the elderly. After the Dobbs decision, there were threats against churches in my area. I am thankful for the men who armed themselves and made sure that we were safe at every worship service.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:08 am to burger bearcat
Andrew Tate take the wheel.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:08 am to burger bearcat
There does seem to be a pattern of a … certain demographic … falling in love with narcissistic, blowhard misogynists.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:15 am to burger bearcat
quote:A black, muslim e-pimp whose father was in the CIA nd who himself is likely in the CIA. Hold that guy up at your peril.
Andrew Tate
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:19 am to burger bearcat
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(Yes, I am aware of his background, I am simply discussing his message, not necessarily his past behaviors)
You don’t get to gloss over the kind of past this a-hole has in order to focus on his words. Words don’t matter when you’re carrying his history.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:35 am to burger bearcat
Andrew Tate talks about his faith and God but everything about his message is "Chase worldly things to become happy and successful."
Andrew Tate is a used car salesman for beta males that desperately want to be alpha's.
Andrew Tate is a used car salesman for beta males that desperately want to be alpha's.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:40 am to burger bearcat
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Tate delivers more virtue than you would get in about 90%+ of modern church pulpits (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical)
What church service do attend regularly? This is a serious question.
I have attended Catholic Mass regularly including daily Mass when I can for decades. I’m pretty familiar with the priests and the services in my parish, and some little experience with other parishes and priests.
I even watch a lot of religious content on YouTube, everything from Catholic to mainline Protestant to Muslim (in debates with Christians), and Evangelical.
But I don’t really know how representative my observations are on the totality of religious teaching, even among Catholics.
So I’m wondering how you can paint with such a broad brush about 90% of church pulpits. In my experience in south Louisiana, there are at least half of the priests who are very good homilists.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:48 am to burger bearcat
No disagreement that most churches have neglected their duty.
Glad that I'm part of one (Prestonwood Baptist -- Dr. Jack Graham) which hasn't. We make it very clear that the only real hope for America is a national revival.
When people move to your area literally for the primary purpose of wanting to be in a solid, Gospel-preaching and Bible-teaching congregation (I know personally of one family which did, and am aware of around half a dozen), you know you're doing something right.
Glad that I'm part of one (Prestonwood Baptist -- Dr. Jack Graham) which hasn't. We make it very clear that the only real hope for America is a national revival.
When people move to your area literally for the primary purpose of wanting to be in a solid, Gospel-preaching and Bible-teaching congregation (I know personally of one family which did, and am aware of around half a dozen), you know you're doing something right.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:53 am to burger bearcat
It's not Tate the person per se (he's very flawed), it's the message.
The same message is coming from Jordan and Rogan.
It is a call for men to re-embrace masculinity and reject being feminized, and boys and men are responding.
Look at the recent surveys showing more and more high school boys consider themselves conservatives.
The same message is coming from Jordan and Rogan.
It is a call for men to re-embrace masculinity and reject being feminized, and boys and men are responding.
Look at the recent surveys showing more and more high school boys consider themselves conservatives.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:58 am to burger bearcat
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How many Pastors or Priests are delivering this message?
Pretty much all the priests I am around do. I am a member of a lay movement lead by non-parish priests. They all are manly priests who speak biblical truths.
Hell, some of them lead a 3 week back country Alaska “retreat” each year for dads and sons which is all pretty much done while rafting and living off the land.
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