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re: Rejoice debtors, Biden says student loans won't be considered delinquent until 9/30/2024

Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
8316 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:13 am to
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However, borrowers will be spared from many of the usual consequences of missing a payment until October of next year.

For example, loans will not go into default and delinquencies will not be reported to credit reporting agencies, said higher education expert Mark Kantrowitz. Late fees won’t be charged, either.


Since COVID, has interest been accumulating on these student loans, or did they defer interest too?

Also, are interest rates tied to the FED Funds rate or are they fixed depending on when the loan was taken out?

Some may be in for a shock when their interest rates have gone from 1-3% to closer to 5-8% with the Biden interest rate hikes.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66921 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:14 am to
0% interest since the covid relief stuff went into effect.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:15 am to
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I worry about the effects of this on an even greater level of welath inequality when a lot of people who were living paycheck to paycheck get their credit score knocked because they thought this was a pause and they can't get approved for anything to make ends meet except shark loans.

You can't worry about the people who will make this mistake, because they aren't doing so mistakenly. They will be warned monthly that payment is late, I assume. Interest will pile up, I assume. How could they not know?
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7827 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:18 am to
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You can't worry about the people who will make this mistake, because they aren't doing so mistakenly. They will be warned monthly that payment is late, I assume. Interest will pile up, I assume. How could they not know?


Did you finish reading?

I'm not worried about these people. I'm worried about the effects these people's tough times will have on the economy as a whole.

I know it isn't a popular opinion here, but when our poorest people have decent lives the entire country does better. I'm not saying hand it to them, I'm saying don't enact policy that is going to frick these people over long-term without them realizing it.

It's nothing to do with these people. It's everything to do with me not wanting to have to avoid most areas of a city.

Don't confuse apathy with hatred. I don't hate people worse off than me. I don't care about them. I don't want to teach them a lesson. I don't care if they learn lessons. I just don't want even more a hellscape.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 11:19 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35804 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:24 am to
This is a horrible idea. Interest starts back up in a couple months so you’d be screwing yourself to not make payments for that long
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49818 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:25 am to
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A lot of borrowers are going to think this is essentially a freeze extension and will frick themselves big time



So come September 2024 are these folks going to get a letter asking for full repayment on a large lump? Because that's what it sounds like.

Economy going to be in shitter by 2025
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35804 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:26 am to
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Also, are interest rates tied to the FED Funds rate or are they fixed depending on when the loan was taken out?
federal loan interest rates are fixed they aren’t going to jump like that most of mine are around 4%
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
2582 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:27 am to
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Now do that for mortgages


I’m pretty sure they literally did.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25607 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:28 am to
So the only difference between now and a year from now is interest will accrue?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
122536 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:28 am to
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buy a bunch of votes with empty promises.


It's what democrats do.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18932 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:29 am to
Have they considered just doing away with interest? They’ll get the loans back, borrowers get some taken off and the feds then finally get out of the loan business.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29798 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:30 am to
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So come September 2024 are these folks going to get a letter asking for full repayment on a large lump? Because that's what it sounds like.

No you just get a forebearance
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19319 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:32 am to
They’ve kicked this can down the road so many times that it’s going to be an absolute nightmare to restart. Most people who were paying their loans have completely written their monthly payments out of their budget. Getting hit with that monthly bill at a time when the economy is shaky will be rough for a lot of people. I don’t think they’re done yet with extending the payment deferrals
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:36 am to
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Did you finish reading?

I'm not worried about these people. I'm worried about the effects these people's tough times will have on the economy as a whole.

I know it isn't a popular opinion here, but when our poorest people have decent lives the entire country does better. I'm not saying hand it to them, I'm saying don't enact policy that is going to frick these people over long-term without them realizing it.

It's nothing to do with these people. It's everything to do with me not wanting to have to avoid most areas of a city.

Don't confuse apathy with hatred. I don't hate people worse off than me. I don't care about them. I don't want to teach them a lesson. I don't care if they learn lessons. I just don't want even more a hellscape.



I read your post and I believe you're creating a false premise. No one willing to ignore warnings for an entire year cares about their credit anyway. They are likely already removed from a credit worthiness pool. But a year pause on delinquency may actually pull a few out of this box.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35804 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:36 am to
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Have they considered just doing away with interest? They’ll get the loans back, borrowers get some taken off and the feds then finally get out of the loan business.
this is the fairest compromise for everyone imo but of course that means it will never happen
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
17314 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:50 am to
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Man, whomever wins the 2024 race is going to have such a shite economy to deal with

Looks like Democrats are hedging their bets. Plan to use student loan forgiveness as a major platform to run on, AGAIN. Claim that if they win the Presidency, House & Senate they will set legislation/budgets in place to finally do something about the student loans.

Or lose the races to the Republicans and watch the economy crash and blame it on Republicans.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49818 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:54 am to
Reread the article now. Seems like folks are going to get hit hard. Instant default, credit reporting, and interest starts. A lot will think this is another freeze.

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For example, loans will not go into default and delinquencies will not be reported to credit reporting agencies, said higher education expert Mark Kantrowitz. Late fees won’t be charged, either.

“The 12-month on-ramp is similar to a forbearance in many ways,” Kantrowitz said.

But as is the case with a forbearance, interest will continue accruing on your debt while you don’t make payments. As a result, Kantrowitz recommends borrowers start repaying their bills, if they can.


Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25654 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:54 am to
Pay your loans. Just get it over with.

Daddy government won’t be helping you, especially if you earn a decent salary.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
682 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:55 am to
The worse will get worse. As someone said, debt holders will likely continue deferring payment. So, for 3 years, they refused to pay down the principal interest free. Now some will continue to defer, but this time the interest will accrue. No delinquencies, defaults or late fees doesn't mean no interest. More "woe is me" is to come. SMDH.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3828 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:58 am to
How does this affect the suckers who never stopped paying their student loans?
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