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Iowa voter, “we lost people because you supported the jab”.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:13 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:13 am
While taking questions from the audience. Rumble: question starts at 10:50.
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:19 am to GumboPot
I do not think he ever mandated it. Please, if you do not mind, correct me with any facts you might have regarding POTUS Trump mandating a jab.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:23 am to Timeoday
I know Trump did not mandate the vaccine. The vaccine was finally available two days after the election. It did not really start rolling out until Biden was in office. Then Biden started with the mandate crap around March of 2021.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:28 am to GumboPot
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"The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind," Trump told conservative commentator
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"I came up with a vaccine, with three vaccines all are very, very good," he said in the interview, referring to the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson shots.
ETA: Lol I'm getting downvoted for quoting Trump, my bad guys.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 7:48 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:28 am to GumboPot
This is an attack on Trump I will not subscribe to. I give Trump credit for that fact he won 2016, and because he won 2016, the conservatives took control of the Supreme Court, and because conservatives had control of the Supreme Court, Biden’s OSHA mandate was struck down.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:29 am to Solo Cam
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I came up with a vaccine, with three vaccines all are very, very good
Narrator: But they weren’t all very, very good.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:32 am to Jon Ham
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This is an attack on Trump I will not subscribe to.
I mostly agree. The media was touting the vaccine as the way out of Covid. Unfortunately, there’s usually very few shortcuts available when dealing with Nature. Trump chose a rush to a vaccine as one of the strategies to mitigate Covid. It’s a defensible strategy.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:46 am to Jon Ham
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conservatives had control of the Supreme Court, Biden’s OSHA mandate was struck down.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:52 am to Jon Ham
He made it possible to clear the way, however, once we saw that they weren't safe and effective, he couldn't stop praising himself about them
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:55 am to the808bass
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The media was touting the vaccine as the way out of Covid.
The media, Social Media, the CDC, the WHO, and Fauci were all pushing vaccines. The data suggested that the elderly and immunocompromised probably benefited from the jab.
Everyone else…
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:03 am to GumboPot
It's funny watching this line of attack from "conservatives" who have always claimed we need to remove regulations on corporate America to get things done. Not that I disagree with that sentiment at all, but this is the risk. Trump took the risk and went all in with big pharma. He's not alone in that.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:03 am to Timeoday
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I do not think he ever mandated it. Please, if you do not mind, correct me with any facts you might have regarding POTUS Trump mandating a jab.
Trump always wanted Americans to have a choice on whether to take a vaccine. If he had been reelected, no one gives up their jobs and livelihood by saying no to the vaccine.
He described his therapeutic treatment as a cure. He wanted everyone to have the opportunity and access to his therapeutic protocol.
The US economy was hemorghing during Covid19 lockdowns. Trump had to allow vaccines for the portion of the population living in total manufactured fear.
In order to save the country, the percentage wanting a quick cure had to be placated with a fast tracked vaccine.
Those people not wanting the vaccine would have been protected from the Covidians had Trump been reelected. Again, he stressed on a number of occasions he wanted being vaccinated a choice by each American.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:13 am to BigTigerJoe
Deleted. My timeline was wrong. You are correct.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:15 am to Timeoday
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I do not think he ever mandated it. Please, if you do not mind, correct me with any facts you might have regarding POTUS Trump mandating a jab
I am on the train
But Trump needs to back off his support of the jab THE vaccine is a killer and while he never mandated it or suggested it be mandated he touted it and his role in creating it.
He needs to say how bad it is, discourage it's use and apologize for his mistake.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:16 am to GumboPot
Here is why Trump deserves a ton of blame for these vaccines. He has made comments that make it clear that he was aware of how difficult it is to create a vaccine and how often they fail. Back when all this was happening, I thought he was ignorant about all of this, but he's not. Someone gave him some information and he knows this stuff.
He knew this was not a simple endeavor. He knew these things fail all the time.
Yet, he pushed to rush this thing through development, testing, and approval, all for re-election - knowing there was serious risk of harm for things not fully tested in a rigorous manner.
This thing was developed, not just in record time, but in an unreal frame of time. One of the most recent major vaccines that utilized machine learning, AI and all the latest computing power available, still took years to finish, and when they rolled it out, there were still major problems. Yet Trump was ok with this vaccine emerging within months.
He knew this had red flags all over the place and not only did he not care, he had the audacity to act like this was the greatest thing ever done by humans, and he took credit for it.
Let this albatross drag him under. Absolute dumbassery and callousness to play with health like this.
Democrats, Fauci and others have blame as well, but there's no way Trump gets a pass on any of this.
He knew this was not a simple endeavor. He knew these things fail all the time.
Yet, he pushed to rush this thing through development, testing, and approval, all for re-election - knowing there was serious risk of harm for things not fully tested in a rigorous manner.
This thing was developed, not just in record time, but in an unreal frame of time. One of the most recent major vaccines that utilized machine learning, AI and all the latest computing power available, still took years to finish, and when they rolled it out, there were still major problems. Yet Trump was ok with this vaccine emerging within months.
He knew this had red flags all over the place and not only did he not care, he had the audacity to act like this was the greatest thing ever done by humans, and he took credit for it.
Let this albatross drag him under. Absolute dumbassery and callousness to play with health like this.
Democrats, Fauci and others have blame as well, but there's no way Trump gets a pass on any of this.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:27 am to Timeoday
He didn't mandate it but he took the vaccine and promoted it big time early on.
You Trump chumps are just as bad as liberal in your selective memories and selective outrage.
Lmao. You anti-vaxxers attack and belittle everyone who took it BUT Orange Man good. Initiate ignore function in data programing.
Lol.
You Trump chumps are just as bad as liberal in your selective memories and selective outrage.
Lmao. You anti-vaxxers attack and belittle everyone who took it BUT Orange Man good. Initiate ignore function in data programing.
Lol.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:29 am to novabill
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and apologize for his mistake.
Bro……
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:30 am to AUCom96
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Trump took the risk and went all in with big pharma. He's not alone in that.
And I'd like to see a rational response to why that was NOT the "right thing to do at the time" without all the caveats of what we learned AFTERWARDs.
Folks - we can only deal with the facts available at the time.
The alternative was to do NOTHING wrt to vaccines except wait for the 'usual' 5-10 year development schedule. Meanwhile people were dying at a precipitous clip.
Trump took the step of initiating WARP SPEED - to DEVELOP a vaccine NOW - but to MY knowledge NEVER supported a MANDATE to take it - Make it AVAILABLE ASAP and use the best information available as it became available on how to use it.
BIDEN tried to take CREDIT for it once he was selected.
I'm sorry - but the rank HYPOCRICY on display here about the cause/effect/blame and blame/credit and fact/propaganda surrounding this event that we all witnessed in real time is astounding.
Both sides are trying to re-live a set of facts that are totally obvious to anyone with a brain - and both sides are showing their asses in the process.
I am accustomed to the damned DEMOCRATS lying about everything, but dammit-to-hell I hate haveing to watch conservatives fall into that abyss.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:31 am to GumboPot
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I know Trump did not mandate the vaccine. The vaccine was finally available two days after the election. It did not really start rolling out until Biden was in office. Then Biden started with the mandate crap around March of 2021.
When the truth is finally revealed about the dangerous complications from taking the MRNA juice the Gaslight Media and the Anti Trump Forces will have convinced gullible Americans it was all Trump's doings.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:37 am to Flats
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Bro
The jab kills people, at least that is what I believe.
If true and it is a bad product, one that he supported and took credits for, shouldn't he admit his mistake?
I am not blaming him for the shot. But it was a mistake that is now killing people. A mistake he had a role in.
Most people would admit it was a mistake, why can't he?
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