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re: Most Overrated Player In NBA History
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:30 pm to Madking
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:30 pm to Madking
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Wow, your lack of self awareness and ability to invert reality is incredible.
You couldn't even logically explain your Rivers/Stafford brilliance, so be careful using aggressive words.
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:34 pm to c on z
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This board is making me take up for Lebron because I have a rule in life, don’t sound like an idiot
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As I’ve said in another thread…welcome to the last 13 years of the MSB.
The spray painting story broke the MSB
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nobody asked me to, instead you two created a straw man out of it to deflect from the obvious reflection of your logic comparing basketball players. It just shows that you’re the one moving the standards based on bias alone.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:57 pm to 504Voodoo
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This board is making me take up for Lebron because I have a rule in life, don’t sound like an idiot
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As I’ve said in another thread…welcome to the last 13 years of the MSB.
The spray painting story broke the MSB
I've kinda gone back and forth about LeBron over the years.
On a personal level he's pretentious and annoying when pretending to be things that he is not (an intellectual or a victim are his lowest moments).
He's had an amazing career. He's had great performances in the playoffs and let down performances.
On the balance he's probably a person of average character and has used his celebrity and money for mostly selfish reasons. That's what normal people typically do.
In a basketball sense I've sometimes rooted for him and sometimes rooted against him. If the modern history of the NBA were different I wonder if he would have stayed longer in Cleveland - especially if the Celtics hadn't assembled a super team from the franchise players of other teams.
The trip to the Lakers is terrible from my perspective just because of how terrible it is to the fans of 90% of the NBA franchises. If they don't want the Charlotte, Orlando, New Orleans, and Clevelands to have a reasonable chance of success then the franchises are hard to justify rooting for or paying to watch
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:02 pm to therick711
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I could, for instance, argue that Kobe played in the West his entire career and the West was far and away the better conference for his entire career. Lebron, on the other hand, shopped super teams in the East for most of his career and orchestrated teams that bent the competitive balance of the league by securing agreeements for players to take less than they would get in the open market to title chase.
Fair points. But those all point to reasons why Kobe is more likeable than LeBron. I too am more of a fan of Kobe than LeBron. But when it comes to overall basketball ability. LeBron is 100% the better player without question.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:38 pm to QJenk
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So your argument is that in 2014, Tim Duncan was a better player than Lebron? So you would take the guy averaging 15/10 over the guy averaging 28/8?
That’s preposterous as James was in his prime. But Duncan is absolutely the better player historically.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:50 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Yea that’s a bad take. It’s like saying prime Dwight Howard was better than crippled, Celtic Shaq so Howard should be ranked higher than Shaq historically.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Other than 2020, b/c it hurts your argument
Is reading hard for you? The bubble doesn’t count because the “season and playoffs” resumed after an off season of rest. With no road games in empty gyms except for family. It has nothing to do with who won. Otherwise, AD wouldn’t get the shite he does.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:53 pm to Madking
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Yea that’s a bad take. It’s like saying prime Dwight Howard was better than crippled, Celtic Shaq so Howard should be ranked higher than Shaq historically.
Correct. I didn’t say that but Duncan did it when it mattered. And without missed bunnies of his own, never loses to James. Duncan is the best player of his generation.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:11 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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It’s not a negative but it’s an argument in bad faith if you believe this generation doesn’t have so many more advantages in sports science to extend their careers, training, and sheer money behind them. LeBron also at 38 is playing less games than Jordan did.
Yeah, that’s why players of today shite on any other generation
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:11 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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The bubble doesn’t count because the “season and playoffs” resumed after an off season of rest. With no road games in empty gyms except for family. It has nothing to do with who won. Otherwise, AD wouldn’t get the shite he does.
What other years are you picking out idiosyncrasies to remove titles from resumes?
Does Duncan lose one (due to the lockout)?
Does Durant gain one (due to injury)?
Do we give Jordan 2 more (because obviously they would have won)?
If Jokic wins, do we not count it b/c it was against an 8 seed?
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jake is putting up a good fight like he always does. I'm not sure I want to read all of the thread now. He is ting a horse, so something goofy was posted.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:25 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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That’s preposterous as James was in his prime. But Duncan is absolutely the better player historically
Right. But that's my point. Just because the Spurs won does not mean that Tim was better at the time. The Spurs won because their team overall was better, not just because they had the single best player.
You can't use only championships as the barometer for who is the better player.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:27 pm to molsusports
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If they don't want the Charlotte, Orlando, New Orleans, and Clevelands to have a reasonable chance of success then the franchises are hard to justify rooting for or paying to watch
I’m a fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes, should I quit being a fan because they will never win a championship? At least in the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB each team has a punchers chance to win the whole thing.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:14 pm to RedHawk
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I’m a fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes, should I quit being a fan because they will never win a championship?
That's your individual decision. But when you look at the kind of self reported fan affiliation data as a metric?
The answer in general is yes. People are less likely to be a fan of the Iowa or Colorado type football teams and more likely to be a fan of the Ohio State and Georgia teams of today or the 90s Nebraska or Florida State programs of years ago.
Even the alumni of the irrelevant schools with non competitive football teams (Tulane, Rutgers, whatever) tend not to be engaged fans who attend or watch many games.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What other years are you picking out idiosyncrasies to remove titles from resumes?
Idiosyncrasies is a nice deflection from an entire offseason’s worth of rest between the “end of the season and “the playoffs”. Don’t die on this hill, J.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 12:19 am
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:26 pm to sms151t
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Jake is putting up a good fight like he always does.
He’s the Eric Gordon of the MSB NBA threads.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:27 pm to QJenk
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Right. But that's my point. Just because the Spurs won does not mean that Tim was better at the time. The Spurs won because their team overall was better, not just because they had the single best player.
My guy the old spurs beat a team gunning for a 3 peat.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:39 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
only on this board does a topic like this get to 14 pages. Bunch of autists Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:02 pm to VA LSU fan
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