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More obesity insanity from NPR, presented with minimal commentary
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:15 am
The article in question.
If only we knew how to lose weight.
Impossible.
If only we knew how to cure obesity. Hmmmm.
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Two mothers — Jen McLellan in Albuquerque, N.M., and Grace, of Bethesda, Md. — haven't met, but they share a common childhood trauma: Both came of age in the 1980s and '90s feeling burdened by shame and stigma over their body size. Both tried every known diet plan and pill available at the time, only to have doctor after doctor admonish them to restrict calories and exercise still more.
If only we knew how to lose weight.
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Since then, scientific understanding of obesity has transformed; doctors now consider it a disease driven by genetics, the brain and other organs, as well as by environmental or psychosocial factors. Studies have also confirmed what both women suspected all along: Diets usually do not result in long-term weight loss because food and exercise account for only some part of the puzzle.
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Grace's eldest daughter had been active in sports, but around age 8 — with no changes in how she'd been eating — she started rapidly and inexplicably gaining weight, as Grace herself had. Her increasing size and decreasing mobility started affecting her moods and caused distress.
Impossible.
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Bariatric surgery's track record in teens is longer and has proved effective, though it comes with some risk of complications, malnutrition and weight regain. Either way, neither medication nor surgery is a quick fix, and both are expensive and require serious commitment to big lifestyle changes in nutrition and activity in order to work.
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"Obesity in and of itself is a disease," says Stanford, a Harvard Medical School obesity specialist. "If we recognize obesity as the chronic disease that it is, then we have to treat that disease, not just as an impact on other diseases."
If only we knew how to cure obesity. Hmmmm.
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Jen McLellan, the Albuquerque mother, says endorsing treatments that reduce body size makes weight stigma worse. She thinks parents instead should model acceptance of different body sizes, rather than urging kids to conform to a smaller ideal. "We shouldn't be changing their bodies because of bullying so they fit a mold that is acceptable by society," she says.
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Many advocates in the growing fat acceptance movement share McLellan's point of view. For instance, the Association for Size Diversity and Health issued a statement condemning the AAP's treatment guidelines, writing that they "worsen medical fatphobia and ultimately degrade the quality of healthcare" for kids.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:16 am to Tornado Alley
I'm not reading all of that.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:17 am to Tornado Alley
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food and exercise account for only some part of the puzzle.
This is actually true.
If by "some part of" they mean 99.9%
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:18 am to A Smoke Break
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I'm not reading all of that.
I agree. That post needs to go on a diet.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:20 am to Tornado Alley
By 2060, it will be the thin people who are admonished for the oddity of their size. It’s the Middle Ages all over again; obesity a symbol of American prosperity.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:20 am to Tornado Alley
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"Obesity in and of itself is a disease
Oh I agree, its' a disease just like trannyism and gender identity confusion. IOW, it's a scourge on society and has very real, very simple answers.
Stop eating sugar and carbs like they're about to be permanently extinct. Move around more.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:20 am to Tornado Alley
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insanity from NPR
I'm shocked...
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:20 am to dbeck
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That post needs to go on a diet.
nice
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:22 am to Tornado Alley
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Both tried every known diet plan and pill available at the time
This is the problem.
I used to be a fat kid. Monthly diets and pills don't do shite if you're not mentally strong enough to work for it. The second people lose weight on special diets and pills, they gain it back because they didn't change their behavior.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:23 am to Tornado Alley
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only to have doctor after doctor admonish them to restrict calories and exercise still more.
The old Walton & Johnson "eat less and move around more" diet that they preached for 30+ years.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:24 am to The Third Leg
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obesity a symbol of American prosperity.
It's the other way around now. There's a direct correlation between poverty and obesity. Strange times.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:27 am to Tornado Alley
I did see a study recently that people who live downstream of chemical plants are more likely to be obese (along with being more likely to suffer from every other health problem one can think of) but most people just eat too damn much.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:30 am to gymtiger89
Food pyramid is all jacked up
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:34 am to Tornado Alley
Fat acceptance is now an industry.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:34 am to schatman
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Food pyramid is all jacked up
On Mountain Dew.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:44 am to Tornado Alley
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only to have doctor after doctor admonish them to restrict calories and exercise still more.
The nerve!
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:50 am to Tornado Alley
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pill available
cheating is not a long term solution.
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Diets usually do not result in long-term weight loss because food and exercise account for only some part of the puzzle.
This is well known after seeing all of the concentration camp photos of those that just didn't lose weight like all the rest.
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require serious commitment to big lifestyle changes in nutrition and activity in order to work.
Hold up, you just told me that it wasn't related to diet and exercise.
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If we recognize obesity as the chronic disease that it is, then we have to treat that disease
The Rx is eat better, eat less, and workout like your life depends on it. Because it does.
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so they fit a mold that is acceptable by society
maybe try to fit a mold that is acceptable to being healthy.
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worsen medical fatphobia and ultimately degrade the quality of healthcare"
Our world is full of idiots.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:52 am to Tornado Alley
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Diets usually do not result in long-term weight loss because food and exercise account for only some part of the puzzle.
In the words of Vincent LaGuardia Gambini, "maybe the laws of physics cease to exist on your stove."
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:54 am to Tornado Alley
If you use more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. Pretty easy to grasp.
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