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re: Who actually likes “travel ball”

Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:55 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:55 am to
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The biggest change in baseball in the last few generations is the parental investment needed

And not just in money, but in time and knowledge. If you don’t have motivated and knowledgeable parents…

I feel like back in the day they would have been able to play high school ball but not now




yea biggest things are

1) having parents that are honest with them selves and can look around and see where the kid needs to be. from there

A) commit finacially to be able to pay for someone to train your kid due to lack of knowledge

B) commit to learning everythign you can to teach your kid investing tons of time and digesting tons of knowledge

its either time or money now a days

i do hate how baseball has become somewhat of a country club sport, more than it ever has, atleast at big time HS level. But liek i said, for a motivated parent...there is fund raising available.

all the info you ever needed to teach your kid is available for free on the internet. hitting done right, 90 mph formula, top velo, trevor baur youtube channels are enough to make sure your have the knowledge to train your kid


so yea it cost, but you could honestly do it for free if you truely wanted. just take lots of time and energy.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19563 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:15 am to
We did it for 6-7 years, it was a pain at times but I miss it now.

My kid has now stopped all sports and his car smells like Snoop Dogg has been in it all the time.

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84535 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:23 am to
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problem is parents that are involved and good parents are always going to look to give their kid the best chance to reach his goals


Wait, to be involved and a good parent means funding travel ball?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22404 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:33 am to
I think the practice schedule for many travel ball teams I’m familiar with is great. The value I just don’t see is playing tournament after tournament. 2 practices plus 2 games a week seems optimal plus maybe one or two big tournaments to end the season.

Essentially the old Rec ball model of regular season and then Allstars.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 10:34 am
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9850 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:40 am to
I like it. My kid likes it. Rec ball is 6 weeks long. There is only a spring season. So what else is a kid who likes baseball supposed to do?

I coached rec ball. No parents want to help and when you have 13-14 kids on a team, that's a huge pain in the arse.

We've only played 6 weekend tournaments. Our coach wants to win but for him its more about making them all around better players at 7/8 years old.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22404 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:46 am to
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I coached rec ball. No parents want to help and when you have 13-14 kids on a team, that's a huge pain in the arse.


This is also true.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37320 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:50 am to
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It's the population below that which gives all the stereotypes (and spends the major $ chasing the dream). This population basically destroyed rec options and created the culture of perceived inclusion that's a black hole for so many kids/families who don't have a shot at playing HS ball.


This.

AA parents - let's leave rec so we can choose our own teams and get fancy uniforms

Also AA parents - wow, rec sucks now.

Well no shite, it sucks because so many people left.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37320 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:53 am to
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This is another thing I saw last night but couldn't respond to. Nobody is batting an eye at $1500/year. Parents are investing 10x+ that (and I use invest purposefully) in many cases. THOSE are the people who created the culture that is being criticized.


The concept of an 8 year old getting private hitting instruction is insane and never happened, except in very rare prodigy cases, 20 years ago.

And when I see them in the batting cage getting instruction, most of these kids look miserable.

Let them be kids. Let them play baseball, football, have a sleepover with friends, ride their bike, play some video games, etc>

ANytime you see a kid getting private hitting instruction in a batting cage and looking miserable, think about all the other things he could be doing with his time.
Posted by FlyTheW08
Member since May 2023
91 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:54 am to
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The concept of an 8 year old getting private hitting instruction is insane and never happened, except in very rare prodigy cases, 20 years ago.

And when I see them in the batting cage getting instruction, most of these kids look miserable.

Let them be kids. Let them play baseball, football, have a sleepover with friends, ride their bike, play some video games, etc>

ANytime you see a kid getting private hitting instruction in a batting cage and looking miserable, think about all the other things he could be doing with his time.



The only think a did at 7-8 is getting out of hitting lessons is muscle memory and practice putting the bat on the ball. Any dad with a 10 pack of balls from walmart can do that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37320 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:54 am to
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if you are not pursing this...with local money, you are losing a huge economic opportunity. i have seen it first hand over and over.


You are not wrong... but we are talking about "youth baseball" and "economic development".

WTF is wrong with us as a society, that we are basing economic development and people's business profits on... youth baseball.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14218 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:55 am to
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.parents have lost their fricking minds when it comes to kids in sports.


^This

Also, everything parents are being told is that if you don't go the travel ball route, good luck in getting your kid on a high school team. This is all we heard when my son was younger.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:58 am to
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everything parents are being told is that if you don't go the travel ball route, good luck in getting your kid on a high school team.

The thing is, this isn't a lie, per se.

But giving these deluded parents hope skews everything down the line and creates the culture/memes about "travel ball"
Posted by FlyTheW08
Member since May 2023
91 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:01 am to
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Also, everything parents are being told is that if you don't go the travel ball route, good luck in getting your kid on a high school team. This is all we heard when my son was younger.


It was a self fulfilling prophesy. Because everyone thought this, everyone pulled their kids out of rec ball. Rec ball is a shell of its former self. If we could go back 15 years, that would not be the case.

The comment that you have to play travel ball to make the high school team isn't a plus to travel ball it is a truth about rec ball not even existing anymore.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7882 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:05 am to
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Rec ball is 6 weeks long. There is only a spring season.


No wonder rec ball is dead out there. Rec ball out here is fall and spring, each being 12-13 weeks long, not including all star tournaments the older kids get on after the spring season.

This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48180 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:05 am to
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Also, everything parents are being told is that if you don't go the travel ball route, good luck in getting your kid on a high school team. This is all we heard when my son was younger.


We’re losing high schools too and making the ones that still exist bigger… in a bunch of north LA parishes we’ve gone from a few schools to one. Same thing where I’m from and that’s a lot less kids who can play HS ball.
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
425 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:07 am to
Does anyone actually know of a "Braxxtyn" or "Jaxxon" or any variation of a travel ball name? Or is that just making fun of these kids?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:17 am to
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Does anyone actually know of a "Braxxtyn" or "Jaxxon" or any variation of a travel ball name? Or is that just making fun of these kids?

It’s making fun of their parents.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34521 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:21 am to
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Does anyone actually know of a "Braxxtyn" or "Jaxxon" or any variation of a travel ball name? Or is that just making fun of these kids?


The only times I’ve seen any of those ridiculous names it’s been on tigerdroppings

They don’t know how to let old material fade away over here
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
16023 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:22 am to
Yea well I’ve seen rosters filled with them.

The xxxtra x’s maybe be a joke, but the fields are littered with Brayden, Jaxtyn, Kuyler, etc.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34521 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:25 am to
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The rest shouldn't be in that sort of system because they have no shot of any meaningful playing time in high school.


You keep pounding this drum but honestly, I don’t think you know wtf you’re talking about. There are more ways to do it than how they do it in Lake Charles. Not every system operates like barbe’s
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