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re: Tesla Supercharging Network: How it started; how it's going
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Who is saying that?
Our overlords in Washington. Have you been paying attention?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:52 pm to Dam Guide
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Electric companies have gotten really behind getting these up and running
I mean, do you have to be a MENSA member to figure this one out?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:53 pm to MightyYat
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Our overlords in Washington. Have you been paying attention?
Man they suck arse at that because it’s never been better for us in O&G. We just posted our best ever Q1. Last year was the best year ever.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:55 pm to Korkstand
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We don't really need much infrastructure improvement (aside from charger networks as shown in OP) to support EVs. Whatever upgrades the grid needs are needed regardless of EVs.
I've said this a lot here but I'll say it again:
If every single passenger vehicle in the US switched to EV overnight, we would have to boost electricity production by about 25-30%. That's really not a lot and we have the capacity to do that already. The bigger issue is peak demand, though EVs can actually reduce our peak demand rather than increase it by time-shifting that demand. This requires the majority of chargers to be capable of back-feeding to the grid, but given that it will take multiple decades for EV adoption to come anywhere near 100% I believe this will be a smooth transition with no need to panic about any harm that EVs might cause the grid.
Because I don't read much about this, and you seem to know, what is the latest on the tax issue with EV charging? Because that brings into question another aspect of infrastructure maintenance. Where are we at on road taxes being implemented on the growing amount EV drivers?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:55 pm to keakar
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most times you cant even do that at the gas pump
You drive a semi with a 100 gallon tank baw?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:56 pm to rickgrimes
That's cute, but that isn't gonna come close to servicing the other 94% of vehicles on the road.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:59 pm to rickgrimes
I made it to the end of the thread and Noone has answered this question;
How much does it cost to "fill up" at a tesla super charging station?
I'll hang up and listen
How much does it cost to "fill up" at a tesla super charging station?
I'll hang up and listen
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:00 pm to Cosmo
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You drive a semi with a 100 gallon tank baw?
Assuming you have overnight charging available at your home, the only time you would ever really need to use a supercharger would be on a 4+ hour road trip. If the family and I are driving for the long we are almost certainly going to eat when we stop so taking 20-30 mins to charge would make literally zero difference in travel time.
If my destination is more than 6 hours away by car I will fly just about 100% of the time.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:01 pm to Cosmo
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Still have to sit around for 20-30 minutes not even to fully charge
A Tesla leaves the garage every morning with a “full-tank” so the only time you’ll be at a Supercharger is on a road trip, unless you’re commuting over 300 miles daily.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:01 pm to rickgrimes
Oh cool another lgbtev thread
Just bake the cake bigot
Just bake the cake bigot
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:02 pm to LSU_postman
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How much does it cost to "fill up" at a tesla super charging station?
Usually about $15 - $20 in my experience. That’s going from around 5% - 100%
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:04 pm to Korkstand
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If every single passenger vehicle in the US switched to EV overnight, we would have to boost electricity production by about 25-30%. That's really not a lot and we have the capacity to do that already.
First of all that really is a lot.
Secondly, it's not going to be just "passenger vehicles". Count how many "freight" vehicles you see on a 1 hour commute on any interstate in the country and get back with us.
To say it isn't going to be a major tax on the grid if everything were to change overnight is just dumb.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:05 pm to LSU_postman
I just looked at my history of Tesla Superchargers since owning the car for a year. The least amount I have paid at one was $5.28 and the most I have paid at one was $16.32.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:07 pm to LSU_postman
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I made it to the end of the thread and Noone has answered this question;
How much does it cost to "fill up" at a tesla super charging station?
I'll hang up and listen
From google:
"Although often higher in California, average pricing at Tesla Superchargers is typically around $0.25 per kWh. You can expect it to cost between $20-$25 to add 250 miles of range to your Tesla at this price. The cost to charge a Tesla is usually about 33% less expensive if you charge at home using a level 2 charger."
I have a volt - In most conditions, I can drive 4 miles on a kWh; 1 pay about $.10/kWh to charge at home, so I can drive about 40 miles for a dollar (doesn't include 10% charging loss - so $1.10 for 40 miles). Teslas don't all have the same efficiency, or battery size, but the model 3 and y are roughly the same as my volt.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:08 pm to MightyYat
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Filling my truck up from E to full takes 5 minutes as of about 10 minutes ago.
so not the 2-3 minutes he posted, you confirmed my comment as true
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:10 pm to Cosmo
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You drive a semi with a 100 gallon tank baw?
no, i dont drive a car with 12 gallon gas tank
i drive a truck like all real men do
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:No idea.
what is the latest on the tax issue with EV charging?
quote:Also no idea, but if you want my opinion (and who doesn't? ) then I think we need to rethink the whole thing. If public charging is taxed then people will be even more inclined to charge at home, and I damn sure don't want my home charging equipment to report to the government how much power I put into my car vs. the rest of my house. Taxing all electricity to pay for road maintenance also won't work because that will push people to get more solar (which isn't a bad thing for us or the grid but it would be bad for tax revenue). I guess the only feasible way to do it is to tax by mileage at inspection time or similar. Alternatively, or optionally, we could tax EVs at the time of sale (and battery replacement). This I think would work alright for fed taxes though state and local might be a bit out of whack. The best way to align vehicle miles with road maintenance is via tolls, but I don't know how it would go down trying to make every road a toll road. And again I damn sure don't want my vehicle reporting location and/or mileage directly to the government.
Because that brings into question another aspect of infrastructure maintenance. Where are we at on road taxes being implemented on the growing amount EV drivers?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:17 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
Is it charging from energy created by moving water, wind, or a gerbil?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:18 pm to rickgrimes
I cant wait to drive through Mexico in my electric car.......
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