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Kentucky's "small ball" and run manufacturing

Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:06 am
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:06 am
The theory is that Kentucky is efficient at manufacturing runs via "small ball"--bunting, stealing, getting on base any way possible. And that LSU is less efficient.

Au contraire! (That's German for "Bless your heart, you clueless moron.")

Kentucky's run production for the season (stats only go through April 7) show 253 runs on 298 hits, an average of .850 runs per hit.

LSU (through last night) has 348 runs on 361 hits, an average of .964 runs per hit.

Ergo, ipso facto (Icelandic for "Don't doubt the science!"), LSU is far more efficient at manufacturing runs.

LSU's brand of "big ball manufacturing" will beat the "small ball manufacturing" team 20 out of 22 times, according to my wild guesstimate (English for "I just pulled that out of my arse.")


Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:08 am to
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Au contraire! (That's German for "Bless your heart, you clueless moron.")


German?

Posted by LSBoosie
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:32 am to
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LSU's brand of "big ball manufacturing" will beat the "small ball manufacturing" team 20 out of 22 times

This is probably true, but that’s just because LSU is better than all of those teams. I think the theory is that Kentucky is still able to put up runs despite not have a Crews, Tommy, Dugas, etc.

They put up 5 runs last night against Skenes which is pretty impressive. Doesn’t mean they are going to beat us though.
Posted by spslayto
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:34 am to
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Au contraire! (That's German for "Bless your heart, you clueless moron.")


Actually French.
Posted by BrownLeft Shoe
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:51 am to
r/woosh
Posted by mdomingue
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:55 am to
quote:

quote:

Au contraire! (That's German for "Bless your heart, you clueless moron.")



Actually French.



Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2295 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 7:55 am to
I am thinking you Germans think LSU is a small ball team. And you Icelanders have a beautiful country.

Over here in the states, we think homeruns are more efficient than bunts. Just sayin.

Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:28 am to
Im Gegentiel, mein Tiger-Fan. “Au contraire” is also in the English lexicon as a loan phrase from its French origin. Don’t know if it’s in German lexicon. As long as Tigers win it doesn’t matter.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:58 am to
Even more evidence of the Tigers’ efficiency: Kentucky got 6 runs on 9 hits. The Tigers got 16 runs on 8 hits.
Posted by chimesstreet
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:08 am to
Bravo! (Japanese for "well done")
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:13 am to
LSU plays money ball. Rarely bunt, rarely steal, walk a lot, HBP a lot, and hit a lot of bombs. This beats small ball by a wide margin.
Posted by stephendomalley
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:40 am to
you can't make errors playing that kind of ball. how many runs did lsu score that wouldn't have been scored because of an error?

of course, errors kill everyone, I know that. But it's even more critical if you don't have the big bats. it would've been a close game without UK errors or misplays, like the missed catch in the outfield because of the sun.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:47 am to
Balderdash! (That's Macedonian for "I beg to differ with your conclusion.")

The discrepancy in errors (2 to 1) doesn't account for the overwhelming deluge of runs LSU produced. It is a sign of the greater efficiency of their "big ball" scheme that they took advantage of any opportunity (errors, walks, HBP) to score. The small-ballers couldn't do that, even with more hits.

The relentless pursuit of big-ballism is the hallmark of this Tiger team!
Posted by OchoDedos
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:53 am to
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Kentucky's "small ball" and run manufacturing

UK sacrificed their Sunday guy to Skenes trying to setup their nickel and diming small ball bs against lesser LSU pitching on Friday and Saturday. It's up to the LSU bats to keep applying the pressure
Posted by OldCat55
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 1:38 pm to
A cunning linguist
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Balderdash


spectacular vernacular

the bunny is funny

Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:22 pm to
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The theory is that Kentucky is efficient at manufacturing runs via "small ball"--bunting, stealing, getting on base any way possible. And that LSU is less efficient.


Who said that???

However in your analytical zeal to prove a conclusion you already had you failed to consider the other half of the equation, i.e. pitching and defense.
As an old fan of the St Louis Cardinals I remember Whitey Herzog building a Smallball team because they played in a huge dead air stadium where homers were an exception. To be successful with Smallball you have to have the right pitchers (grounder and pop fly specialists who didnt walk people), high average hitters with bat control for moving up runners, speedy baserunners who steal a lot, and excellent fielders. You cant win anything with smallball offense alone because they typically dont score high runs per game. They have to hold opponents to stingy run totals.

You could make the same analysis by seeing that LSU is #1 and they are nowhere near that.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:32 pm to
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Even more evidence of the Tigers’ efficiency: Kentucky got 6 runs on 9 hits. The Tigers got 16 runs on 8 hits.


UK 6 runs on 9 hits and 1 walk
LSU 16 runs on 8 hits and 10 walks

Both grand slams were 2 out hits. Turn those to pop fly outs and 8 runs come off the board. Still leaves a 8-6 win but the margin is thinner and game flow is different
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:42 pm to
It's not really an argument of efficiency, so much as sustainability. No one would argue that it takes less hits to score a run, when you are hitting home runs and doubles, as opposed to singles, and bunting, which gives away outs.

Kentucky doesn't have power hitters, so they are doing what they can sustain. Teams who try to hit for power with hitters who struggle to make consistent contact, or who just don't have real power hitters, are going to struggle. Kentucky strikes out a lot, even with their approach, and has almost no power. LSU can hit for power, average and draw walks. So if anyone is arguing that Kentucky has a better offense, they're being dishonest, and don't really need to be taken seriously on the issue.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 3:44 pm
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