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Question for the "do something" crowd.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:49 pm
How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
Thinking about my in-laws, that all have huge safes filled with a bunch of hunting, sporting and general firearms. They use them for hunting and for sport shooting, and others for personal protection. How do the firearms in their possession come into play when discussing the scourge of gun violence we have in America?
Or my neighborhood. We have maybe 150 or so houses scattered over several streets where I live in Youngsville. If I had to guess, we'd have triple that in firearms and probably a lot more. Never had a shooting, and most nights in the fall when it's cool e leave our windows open. Their existence here are no more a threat to me than anyone's power tools.
Since the VAAAAAAAAAAAAAST majority of all firearms held in America are held legally by law abiding citizens, how does removing their firearms reduce the crime committed by the tiny percentage who would not follow any new gun laws, since they currently don't follow laws preventing the use of firearms when committing crimes?
Thinking about my in-laws, that all have huge safes filled with a bunch of hunting, sporting and general firearms. They use them for hunting and for sport shooting, and others for personal protection. How do the firearms in their possession come into play when discussing the scourge of gun violence we have in America?
Or my neighborhood. We have maybe 150 or so houses scattered over several streets where I live in Youngsville. If I had to guess, we'd have triple that in firearms and probably a lot more. Never had a shooting, and most nights in the fall when it's cool e leave our windows open. Their existence here are no more a threat to me than anyone's power tools.
Since the VAAAAAAAAAAAAAST majority of all firearms held in America are held legally by law abiding citizens, how does removing their firearms reduce the crime committed by the tiny percentage who would not follow any new gun laws, since they currently don't follow laws preventing the use of firearms when committing crimes?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:51 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Even if gun control passed, as long as there's a demand for weapons, there will be a market of folks to buy and sell them. They literally can't get rid of guns at this point.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
We better act on THEM (not necessarily advocating for violence) forcing these mental illnesses into our society. It's obvious that mental disease is the problem for all these things. I think there's more to it than that, even.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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that all have huge safes filled with a bunch of hunting, sporting and general firearms.
I can't even!
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
It doesn't. The same people that care so much we have to "do something" to protect children, also support infanticide kiddie drag shows and decriminalizing pedophilia.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:58 pm to GeauxTigerTM
"the most innocent among you are being targeted for random assault and execution so we're going to need you to turn in your best means of defense."
What kind of half wit would think this was acceptable logic?
What kind of half wit would think this was acceptable logic?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:58 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
By increasing the price and therefore availability of firearms.
It's crazy that you have never thought about that. Whether you think that's the RIGHT solution isn't even the question here. Have you really done so little thinking about this that you never considered it?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:01 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I started taping my cock to my gooch so I can understand the killers motives. Don’t use gorilla tape.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:04 pm to GeauxTigerTM
The very definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law. Gun laws will do nothing but weaken normal citizens from protecting themselves.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:05 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Something definitely needs to be done, but the focus needs to be shifted from additional firearm regulation to more focus on mental health in the medical field.
Problem is, mental illness is now celebrated under the guise of all the gender identity/trans baloney. You can't treat a problem if people in power aren't labeling it as a problem.
Not to mention the obvious, anyone who is going to break a plethora of laws to shoot up a school, concert, movie theater, etc... isn't going to suddenly start following new gun laws and they certainly aren't going to turn their gun(s) in to the government.
Really and truly, people who are against guns can bang their fist on the table and scream all they want, but a gun ban is logistically impossible in this country.
Even if the government came out tomorrow and said all firearms are now illegal, they could never actually enforce it. The number of guns and owners of those guns would 100% never allow the government to physically take guns away from them nor jail them for owning a firearm.
This is what the 2nd Amendment and a healthy distrust of government will cause a population to become.
Problem is, mental illness is now celebrated under the guise of all the gender identity/trans baloney. You can't treat a problem if people in power aren't labeling it as a problem.
Not to mention the obvious, anyone who is going to break a plethora of laws to shoot up a school, concert, movie theater, etc... isn't going to suddenly start following new gun laws and they certainly aren't going to turn their gun(s) in to the government.
Really and truly, people who are against guns can bang their fist on the table and scream all they want, but a gun ban is logistically impossible in this country.
Even if the government came out tomorrow and said all firearms are now illegal, they could never actually enforce it. The number of guns and owners of those guns would 100% never allow the government to physically take guns away from them nor jail them for owning a firearm.
This is what the 2nd Amendment and a healthy distrust of government will cause a population to become.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
You will never hear a reasonable response to your question because one does not exist.
Look at what these liberals have been forcing on us, imagine what that would be like if we weren't armed! They have no respect for the constitution or law.
Look at what these liberals have been forcing on us, imagine what that would be like if we weren't armed! They have no respect for the constitution or law.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:15 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
The problem is they're asking the wrong question. The problem is people feeling justified for increasingly violent behaviors against innocents, gun use in these instances is just a symptom of the problem. The real problem is tough and requires uncomfortable discussions about people, groups and behaviors so they go after the inanimate object instead.
It's like blaming forks for obesity. If we just had smart, common-sense fork control we could eliminate the obesity problem in the US once and for all. Right?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:20 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
Tyrants can't do everything they would like to do if the people are armed and might resist their tyranny. So guns need to go.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:56 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How does removing firearms from law abiding citizens that have never committed any crimes and have no plans to do so solve gun violence?
Thinking about my in-laws, that all have huge safes filled with a bunch of hunting, sporting and general firearms. They use them for hunting and for sport shooting, and others for personal protection. How do the firearms in their possession come into play when discussing the scourge of gun violence we have in America?
Or my neighborhood. We have maybe 150 or so houses scattered over several streets where I live in Youngsville. If I had to guess, we'd have triple that in firearms and probably a lot more. Never had a shooting, and most nights in the fall when it's cool e leave our windows open. Their existence here are no more a threat to me than anyone's power tools.
Since the VAAAAAAAAAAAAAST majority of all firearms held in America are held legally by law abiding citizens, how does removing their firearms reduce the crime committed by the tiny percentage who would not follow any new gun laws, since they currently don't follow laws preventing the use of firearms when committing crimes?
The problem is you keep using the term law abiding citizen. There is no such language in the second amendment. There is no way to predict who is a law abiding citizen and who will stay that way nor any way to know who is not a law abiding citizen or insane for that matter without some sort of database that is standardized state to state and some kind of investigation that queries said database without abusing the second amendment. The only logical answer is to arm ever man, woman and child. I think most sane people agree current gun control laws haven't worked. They have all been seen by normal folks as a trampling of the second amendment. Any extension or addition to them would be throwing good money after bad. The issue is not guns its people without guns that is the problem. The criminals are all armed to the teeth...every one who is not is a potential victim emboldening the criminal who, unable to know who is and who isn't armed, as likely to frick around and find out as not...more guns in the hands of more people would even the score between the criminal and the good guys. Its a modest proposal....arm every man, woman and child...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:04 pm to GeauxTigerTM
John Lott explained the truth years ago and everyone on the left ignores it. The stats are clear. Cities that make guns more restricted had an increase in gun crime. Cities that make gun ownership easier had a decrease in crime.
He challenged anyone to debate him live on TV, anytime, anywhere. No one took him up.
He challenged anyone to debate him live on TV, anytime, anywhere. No one took him up.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 3:03 pm to GeauxTigerTM
It doesn’t.
They don’t.
That’s correct.
It won’t.
It’s not about reducing crime. It’s about disarming those who won’t be aligned with the coming bullshite.
They don’t.
That’s correct.
It won’t.
It’s not about reducing crime. It’s about disarming those who won’t be aligned with the coming bullshite.
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