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re: EV owners are increasingly frustrated with home charging, and it should worry EV makers

Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:41 am to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91229 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:41 am to
I always loved the EV idiots that pushed EVs saying you won’t have to buy gas just plug it in as if you won’t have to pay for that electricity
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91229 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:47 am to
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people, and a very small portion of the population at that, drive EVs and are essentially still beta


Could just have stopped here
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15933 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:02 am to
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BIL bought one and charges it daily at his office. He works for VISA and they provide free EV chargers. This is the ONLY scenario where this works.


Wrong. I charge my car every night in my garage and it costs me about $60 to $70 in electricity per month. I was spending $350 to $400 a month in gas on my car before. I’m also not spending the $400 a year on oil changes.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23457 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:29 am to
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I’m also not spending the $400 a year on oil changes

I don't have an EV, but have been doing some research.

How has your tire tread life been? I read that they wear down a little bit quicker due to the instantaneous power produced, and a friend said he had to get a flat towed in and changed by Tesla directly.

(I still can't imagine this would offset any significant maintenance cost savings, but just curious.)
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15933 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:48 am to
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I don't have an EV, but have been doing some research. How has your tire tread life been? I read that they wear down a little bit quicker due to the instantaneous power produced, and a friend said he had to get a flat towed in and changed by Tesla directly. (I still can't imagine this would offset any significant maintenance cost savings, but just curious.)


It depends on how you drive but I would imagine buying tires sooner is the norm in most cases.

You don’t have to have it towed to Tesla but they do offer free towing within 50 miles of the dealership. Tesla’s don’t come with a spare but more cars are starting not to come with one also.

I’m not a big fan of the no spare because I’d rather just change the tire and be on my way.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:49 am to
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Trust me.... if they were to go in with basically a super golf cart that could go around 55mph with right at a 100 mile range for under 10k it would sell off the shelves. But then it wouldn't do much for the status the rich EV owners possess right now.


You could not build them quick enough. That is what the United States needs. The problem is that the state would most likely not sell a tag for that vehicle because it wasn't capable of surviving this:

KIA Takes Flight

The driver of that car walked away with minor bruising. That is fantastic yet that sort of safety is rarely need running to walmart for groceries or home depot for a sheet of plywood. On the interstate at hwy speeds? Yes. Give me a load of whatever that KIA has in it that allowed the driver to survive. The 6 miles between my house and any big box or chain restaurant imaginable with a max speed of 45? It ain't necessary....
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14984 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:54 am to
I'm surprised there's no mention of Moscona and Theriot in this thread.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8659 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:56 am to
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But one has to wonder, when "everyone" supposedly starts doing this overnight, will there even be such a thing as economy hours on the local grid anymore?


Finally. Somebody gets it.

Our infrastructure cannot handle EVs.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:17 am to
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Your mind is made up. If you can't see that in 7-10 years this car will be in a junk yard adding to the problem there is no helping you and your kind.

Do you have any retorts that aren't you completely making shite up that isn't based in reality?


There are 10 year old Teslas all over the road these days and not in a junk yard, but those pesky little facts certainly won't stop you from continuing to make shite up, will it?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:17 am to
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EVs are not meant to be better than gas, nor are they meant to be owned by everyone.

EVs are about centralizing control and controlling consumption.
Politics have broken some of you
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6268 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 9:51 am to
And some of you need to open your eyes!!
Posted by sandraccoon
In the middle of nowhere
Member since Apr 2013
1454 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:00 am to
It's funny the amount of hate that EVs get on here for political reasons.

All that aside, it currently costs me $4.50 to charge my Tesla at home. My round-trip daily commute is around 75-ish miles, and my total fuel cost is around $36 to $40 per month. Of course, this can vary if we go on trips or have many things going on.

But all in all, I am looking at around $4000 in fuel savings alone since I swapped from my previous vehicle.
Posted by sandraccoon
In the middle of nowhere
Member since Apr 2013
1454 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:01 am to
I am sure the same was said about ICE vehicles in 1893, but here we are....
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69375 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:01 am to
Hey, Nola is going to be full ev in 7 years. I believe! #BLM

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69375 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:03 am to
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It's funny the amount of hate that EVs get on here for political reasons.


Dude its because they are forcing it you fricking moron.

I guarantee you i spend less on energy than you do. Including filling up my ice.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15628 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:04 am to
My electric coop electricity rate is 10.66 cents per kWh. My Ford Lightning has a 131 kWh battery. That's about 14 bucks for the fill up from my level 2 charger. Throw in some tax money and it's still cheap.
Posted by sandraccoon
In the middle of nowhere
Member since Apr 2013
1454 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:05 am to
Tell me you are uneducated without telling me you are uneducated

The fact that you resorted to calling someone online a moron is concerning; how is the home life going?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15628 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:14 am to
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I guarantee you i spend less on energy than you do. Including filling up my ice.


I spent about 225 bucks on electricity last month (3900 sqft house) including my level 2 charging. I stop as gas stations to get a Diet Coke every once in a while.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:37 am to
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Our infrastructure cannot handle EVs.

Transition to EV will be a slow roll out, and changes to current infrastructure will happen along the way. Of course the current grid couldn't handle 100% EV.

Again, Palo Alto has this figured out very well. There are over 300 public charging stations there, and by far the highest rate of EVs per capita in the country at ~30% of 70k people.
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
4254 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:36 am to
Shell has started providing electricity in tWoodlands geared towards EV owners ("free" from midnight to 3am; $/kWh is fairly reasonable compared to Centerpoint). I just schedule my car to start charging at midnight and it's worked out pretty well.

And similar to others ITT, the EV is our commuter car and we keep an ICE on the side for road trips.
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