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re: We need criminal felony legislation for owners of this breed!!
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:12 pm to afterburner82
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:12 pm to afterburner82
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You want to live in a world where people must be accompanied by armed guards 24/7 not to be mauled raped or murdered? Thats insane. I want to live in a world where the need to defend oneself and ones family against Tyrone and his pits doesnt exist in the first place.
Then there are plenty of other countries for you to choose from. Hit the road.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:13 pm to Dex Morgan
Like our country not too long ago.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:23 pm to afterburner82
Then I guess you don't agree with Thomas Jefferson.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
You might not have to see a pitbull or Tyrone in Asian countries but then they can also weld your door shut whenever they get the notion. But apparently that's what you want.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
You might not have to see a pitbull or Tyrone in Asian countries but then they can also weld your door shut whenever they get the notion. But apparently that's what you want.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:42 pm to Zach
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Chows
I hate pit bulls and pit bull owners as much as anyone on this board but sweet-natured pits do exist. There is no such thing as a sweet-natured chow. Every chow wants to kill you. They're not too common these days but I remember tons of them back in the '70s.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:00 pm to Dex Morgan
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You already have the right to kill an animal that is trying to attack you.
In other words, we all must either fight with our hands or use a weapon against these mongrels. yes, I have no problem carrying when out of the home. Meanwhile, gooooooooooberment certainly tries to keep so many of us with the inability to arm ourselves so I guess we are left with giving up an arm or leg to subdue the maniacal mongrels.
Too many people are being attacked, injured, or killed by unsupervised animals. Something must be done to increase the supervision or control of them.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:23 pm to shinerfan
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There is no such thing as a sweet-natured chow. Every chow wants to kill
Absolutely not true. I raised Chows for years and I've had some that were extremely sweet. My last male was 100lbs and would take him to parks and kids loved petting him. I've also had a couple that strangers couldn't come near me but it's mostly the females that were that mean.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:23 pm to Ricardo
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In the same vein, the parents of minor age children should face the consequences of their offspring's actions. Especially, in the cases of violent crimes. They are your responsibility. Therefore, you should be responsible for their actions.
I agree with you, but give them back corporal punishment. Not abuse, corporal punishment.
The leftist took corporal punishment from parents long ago.
Kids need to grow up with consequences, and parents need a tool to give them consequences. You can't even make them "time out" without the threat of it.
It's a big reason we have so many entitled undisciplined people today.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:42 pm to Timeoday
For those defending their sweet, gentle DANGEROUS BREED dog - Here is a report on the FATAL attacks 2005-2017. Non-fatal mauling's are not included.
"In the 13-year data set, only 21% (89) of all fatal dog maulings resulted in criminal charges. Pit bulls were implicated in 75% (67) of these criminal cases vs. attacks not involving pit bulls 25% (22) and at a rate 2.5 times higher than rottweilers."
U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities: Breeds of Dogs Involved, Age Groups and Other Factors Over a 13-Year Period (2005 to 2017)
Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Attacks on Humans (2005-2017)
Breed Deaths % of Total
Pit bull 284 65.6%
Rottweiler 45 10.4%
German shepherd 20 4.6%
Mixed-breed 17 3.9%
American bulldog 15 3.5%
Mastiff/bullmastiff† 14 3.2%
Husky 13 3.0%
Unknown/unreleased 11 2.5%
Labrador retriever 9 2.1%
Boxer 7 1.6%
Doberman pinscher 6 1.4%
Alaskan malamute 4 0.9%
Golden retriever 4 0.9%
Heeler/Australian cattle dog 4 0.9%
Cane corso 3 0.7%
Chow chow 3 0.7%
Wolf-dog hybrid 3 0.7%
Presa canario 2 0.5%
Japanese akita 2 0.5%
Australian shepherd 2 0.5%
Belgian malinois 2 0.5%
† Bullmastiff 6, English mastiff 2, Italian mastiff 1, mastiff (unspecified) 4, Neapolitan mastiff 1.
"In the 13-year data set, only 21% (89) of all fatal dog maulings resulted in criminal charges. Pit bulls were implicated in 75% (67) of these criminal cases vs. attacks not involving pit bulls 25% (22) and at a rate 2.5 times higher than rottweilers."
U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities: Breeds of Dogs Involved, Age Groups and Other Factors Over a 13-Year Period (2005 to 2017)
Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Attacks on Humans (2005-2017)
Breed Deaths % of Total
Pit bull 284 65.6%
Rottweiler 45 10.4%
German shepherd 20 4.6%
Mixed-breed 17 3.9%
American bulldog 15 3.5%
Mastiff/bullmastiff† 14 3.2%
Husky 13 3.0%
Unknown/unreleased 11 2.5%
Labrador retriever 9 2.1%
Boxer 7 1.6%
Doberman pinscher 6 1.4%
Alaskan malamute 4 0.9%
Golden retriever 4 0.9%
Heeler/Australian cattle dog 4 0.9%
Cane corso 3 0.7%
Chow chow 3 0.7%
Wolf-dog hybrid 3 0.7%
Presa canario 2 0.5%
Japanese akita 2 0.5%
Australian shepherd 2 0.5%
Belgian malinois 2 0.5%
† Bullmastiff 6, English mastiff 2, Italian mastiff 1, mastiff (unspecified) 4, Neapolitan mastiff 1.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:45 pm to Timeoday
This thread is just further proof that rednecks and hicks are not actual conservatives.
"Thur awwt ta bee a laww!"
"Thur awwt ta bee a laww!"
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:21 pm to FredBear
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Yeah, I posted in an OT thread a little over a month ago about an 11 year old boy in my neighborhood who was jumped by three pit bulls while riding his bike, they drug him into a ditch and he would up losing approximately 70% of his scalp and part of an ear.
Justin Gilstrap- Very lucky to be alive
***NSFW Graphic below
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:30 pm to SOSFAN
quote:When I wanted to get a dog after finishing school 30 years ago, I was researching breeds that I liked, and Chow was one of them. From what I read, a Chow is pretty-much always a one-person dog, so I steered clear.
Absolutely not true. I raised Chows for years and I've had some that were extremely sweet. My last male was 100lbs and would take him to parks and kids loved petting him. I've also had a couple that strangers couldn't come near me but it's mostly the females that were that mean.
Was that accurate?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:36 pm to ImaObserver
I didn't see my 10 lb Yorkie on the list.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:39 pm to Timeoday
Sounds like we need a Pitbull History month to fix the problem.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:41 pm to SOSFAN
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If a Chihuahua had another 50lbs they would make Pit Bulls look like sweet Angels.
If fire ants were lethally poisonous theyd be more dangerous than rattle snakes.
They arent.
STFU.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:49 pm to SOSFAN
quote:I think that the only reason Chihuahuas do not make these lists is that you cannot consider something a "mauling" if the (alleged) dog attack does not break the skin.
If a Chihuahua had another 50lbs they would make Pit Bulls look like sweet Angels.
I submit that more people are bitten by Chihuahuas than any other breed. Afterward, there just is never any physical proof it happened.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:51 pm to ImaObserver
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Here is a report
I knew dogsbite.org would make an appearance. You may as well get political news from CNN.
I have no problem with punishing people for vicious dogs who harm others, and any dog with a human aggression problem should be put down if he's not some sort of working dog that serves a purpose. I just don't care what breed it is. Breed legislation is asinine.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:08 pm to AggieHank86
Beware of the DACHSHUND pack!! They bite through the achilles, you go down, and it's over.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:10 pm to Zach
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IE, the most dangerous dog, the Caucasian Mountain Dog,
That is a racist dog and only attacks brown and black people.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:15 pm to Timeoday
That is the key. It should also not be considered negligent homicide. It should be a much stiffer crime like 3rd degree murder. Until there is a real punishment for these killings and attacks for the owners, there won’t be any changes.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 2/26/23 at 6:19 am to Zach
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After that you're getting into very low danger. Some of it is related to how many people actually own the breed
And the type of person that owns the dog. Many of these “dangerous” dogs are quite expensive and the owners are more responsible. Our Neo as a breed is an incredibly vicious breed. She was a huge sweetheart, but we never assumed that breeding wasn’t still in there. We never made a big deal out of it, but she was never allowed free rein around strangers either. I’ve seen her get protective of the kids, I wouldn’t want that in full blown attack mode against anyone.
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