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So about that defensive holding call in the SB.....

Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35062 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:33 pm
Well, a new video from NFL Films shows a great angle of Bradberry's hold on JuJu and it was legit. Wonder what the "tHe nFl iS rIgGeD" crowd on here will pivot to next now that the legitimacy of the call has been vindicated.

Bradberry grabbed Juju twice. Once in the back clearly restricted and turned him, the second one in the front wasn't as bad but the damage had been done.

Hold as clear as day.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:35 pm to
From that angle, people would have been melting if they didn’t call it

“They didn’t call a huge jersey rip to keep the game alive!!!!!”

That’s what never made sense about all this. Why would the nfl rig the last call to make a less dramatic finish?
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7594 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:45 pm to
doesn't look any worse than the replay i saw that night honestly.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35062 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:47 pm to
Of course I'm getting downvoted.

This place.....
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33956 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:57 pm to
there’s two sides to officiating, technical rules and consistency.

players play how they have been officiated. there wasn’t a single call on a DB all game for either team, so clearly refs were letting light contact go all game. from a fan perspective, it was a bad time to decide to call a minor infraction

doesn’t help it came on the heels of the horrible holding call at the end of last SB as well
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58128 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:36 pm to
The dude admitted he held so I’m not sure why anyone even tried to deny it.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9861 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:44 pm to
Juju sure didn't act like he was held once the play was over. There was a play earlier in the game where he about threw a fit because he thought he was held, it wasn't called. For some reason, he didn't complain after this one though.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:01 pm to
Love that they freeze the video right at the jersey tug to make it look worse. He didn’t impede him much, and he wasn’t walking in. Mahomes was under duress and lobbed a bad ball 5-7yards past the target. If you think he was impeded near that, you’re out of your mind, but you already proved that with your relentless claim that “he had him on the ground.”

Did he tug his jersey? Yes, was it worthy of the call in that situation? Nah.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12414 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:53 pm to
Don't really think anyone sane is denying it was a penalty. The question is should it have been called? While I didn't like the call in that moment I do believe the Chiefs earned the call. The previous 2 touchdowns were essentially on the same route the penalty was called on and were WIDE open. Reid owned the Eagles at the goal line(2nd half) and earned that penalty call. Chiefs improved defending it but were still beat on that play. Hence the hold.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
7921 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 4:38 am to
NFL tells the refs before big games that they don't want a repeat of 2018, no matter what. So, the refs threw a flag in a situation where a decade ago past they wouldn't have. Now it's back to the drawing board once again.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19577 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 5:32 am to
It wasn't even a question of legit but the oh so convenient Madden Penalty Calling Afjustment made at the last two minutes. Either let things slide or don't.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 6:53 am to
I think one interesting thing is that no one is arguing that it was not a hold. The main arguments you hear is either "you can't decide a game at the end like that" and "they were letting that go all game why call it now"?

From my perspective if the call is legit - and it was - no doubt - you can't really support the outrage over it, time to move on.

The first hold definitely altered both the route and the timing - and it appears clear to me....fairly significantly. The second was one that I could have seen being let go and if that had been the only one I could see the case being made as more legit.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16575 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:01 am to
Bradberry admitted he tugged at the jersey and was hoping not to get caught. People like this video shows how stupid people are to keep on with it.
Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
1940 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:38 am to
The whole argument is..... If you haven't called but one, yes one holding call the whole game and have been letting both teams get away with it, then why call it at that moment?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:47 am to
Eagles fans/Chiefs haters have pointed out that a KC lineman committed hands to the face on Josh Sweat but you can also see here that Sweat himself committed hands to the the face during the hold. I can't remember, what happens if one team gets a penalty and the other team gets two penalties on the same play? Obviously 1:1 would offset but what about 1:2?

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46338 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Well, a new video from NFL Films shows a great angle of Bradberry's hold on JuJu and it was legit. Wonder what the "tHe nFl iS rIgGeD" crowd on here will pivot to next now that the legitimacy of the call has been vindicated. Bradberry grabbed Juju twice. Once in the back clearly restricted and turned him, the second one in the front wasn't as bad but the damage had been done.


Told my brother while we were watching the replay the hold that totally jacked up the route was the first hold when Ju Ju was making his move to go to the outside. It wouldn’t matter to most of the people on this forum if Bradberry bear hugged Ju Ju they wanted the game to continue so the Eagles could have one more shot to beat the Chiefs……remember, this is a Joe Cool safe space and the Chiefs kept Burrow out of the Super Bowl.
Posted by LolStarFishlol
Member since Jan 2023
728 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:25 am to
It’s a micromanaged call. It’s a “fair” call, but it definitely wasn’t a necessary call. Fans wanted more out of the game, an overtime game. It’s also just suspicious that the Chiefs won both the AFC championship and the Super Bowl on these late calls. They are fair calls, it’s just suspicious.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50397 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:42 am to
Good for them for getting the call right. I'm one of those "the NFL is rigged" folks and agreed with the call when it happened. This won't magically change my mind about the NFL, as a whole.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15365 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:22 pm to
It was the right call to make. A clear penalty.

That being said, it did make for an anti-climactic ending to an otherwise really great game.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:30 pm to
About as clear as day as the targeting call in the OSU/UGA game. Had to be called, and instead it was overturned
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