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re: Trump sues Bob Woodward for nearly $50M over release of interview recordings

Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:43 pm to
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On its face, this just does not make much logical sense, because the result would be that every journalistic interview would be owned jointly, meaning that the reporter could never publish anything to which the interviewee does not provide advance consent of the content. It would mean the end of investigative journalism.
Yup. Trump's assertion would only make sense if they were working together to create a work of fiction, rather than an interview. In that case, they could both be creators. I'm not sure they want to go down that road
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Trump's assertion would only make sense if they were working together to create a work of fiction .... I'm not sure they want to go down that road
Touche
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124179 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Trump's assertion would only make sense if they were working together to create a work of fiction
Well ... it is Woodward after all.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48659 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Does that make sense to you?


Yes. I was thinking more along the lines if there was a contractual agreement in place. Though I haven’t seen the pleadings, so I don’t know if that’s the case.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57376 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:47 pm to
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If spoken words were copyrighted, Trump could sue any reporter who reports, without his explicit approval, what he says. You are overthinking this.
Literally everything in existence could potentially be a derivative work.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36175 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:47 pm to
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quote:would it then be a felony if the president lied about covid?

which president?


This lol
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57376 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Well ... it is Woodward after all.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124179 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Literally everything in existence could potentially be a derivative work.

Brings the Billy Bush tapes to mind.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:55 pm to
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it seems to me that he could attach whatever conditions he likes to the license for use of those words, including (theoretically) pre-approval AND/OR no release of the tapes themselves. Does that make sense to you?
Yes. I was thinking more along the lines if there was a contractual agreement in place
Call it a "contract," or call it a "license." I think that the effect is much the same.

Trump seems to be asserting (i) that he owned the copyright on his part of the recording and (ii) that he gave Woodward only a (limited) verbal license for the use of those words.

It will be interesting to see it play out. As more facts are learned in the coming months, I am sure we will be doing more analysis.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9910 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:00 pm to
It's probably mostly "performative litigation" in the sense that it's supposed to make a political point to relevant publics that he's fighting, that he has the right enemies, etc., and winning would of course be welcome, but not really the main point.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:07 pm to
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It's probably mostly "performative litigation" in the sense that it's supposed to make a political point to relevant publics that he's fighting, that he has the right enemies, etc., and winning would of course be welcome, but not really the main point.
I think that this is true of about 75% or more of everything that Trump does.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9014 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:29 pm to
By making Woodward a target, Trump can finally expose the true history of Bob Woodward and Bob's relationship with the intelligence agencies.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:03 pm to
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By making Woodward a target, Trump can finally expose the true history of Bob Woodward and Bob's relationship with the intelligence agencies.


Dat 24d chess doe.

Seriously, the mental gymnastics required for Trump apologists is unfathomable.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:44 pm to
What third rate real estate attorney from Fla or Jersey is he using to file this sure to go nowhere, likely to get sanctioned case?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:50 pm to
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What third rate real estate attorney from Fla or Jersey is he using to file this sure to go nowhere, likely to get sanctioned case?
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Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34346 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:52 pm to
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in the interview he says he lied to prevent PANIC!


Since you lie profusely…Link?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34346 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Seriously, the mental gymnastics required for Trump apologists is unfathomable.


Right, because everyone knew:

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the true history of Bob Woodward and Bob's relationship with the intelligence agencies


I can’t imagine being so eaten up with TDS to be will to go to such an extent to deflect.

HHTM would be proud of you though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111132 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Trump is an idiot for pursuing this. He has no case.
Trump and losing lawsuits, a bit of a theme
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34346 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:55 pm to
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It's probably mostly "performative litigation" in the sense that it's supposed to make a political point to relevant publics that he's fighting, that he has the right enemies, etc., and winning would of course be welcome, but not really the main point.


I would agree with your take.

I also agree with his actions.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:56 pm to
He said it was necessary to maintain calm in the early stages of the pandemic to preserve PPE, meat, paper, etc... That was the big media bomb from Woodward's book. It had legs too, until Fauci got busted saying the exact same thing. Then the media immediately stopped talking about it.
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