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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:47 pm to R11
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:47 pm to R11
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Fromwhat I gather about 3rd degree rape if you’ve had sex with a girl who’s legally drunk … you have done something close to it . All she has to do is claim it. I hope I’m mistaken on that
No, there has to be corroborating facts. Like there are here:
Video of her falling down incoherently.
BAC of .032 at least an hour after her leaving the bar.
The suspects own statements that she was too drunk to consent
Her dying by being hit by a car because she was too incoherent to get herself home.
It’s not her word against theirs. She’s dead.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:48 pm to BadTiger
quote:
Some college bars (not in BR) require a student ID to get in
Best idea I’ve seen in years.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:48 pm to Proximo
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This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:50 pm to tigerinthebueche
Fall of 2000 was my first semester at LSU, his death was still fresh on the collective mind around campus.
LSU kicked SAE off campus. It was allowed back after one of my best friend’s transferred from Tech and begged and pleaded with LSU to open SAE again. They consented…Ironically he was killed in a car accident with a drunk driver in 2007 on Highland.
LSU kicked SAE off campus. It was allowed back after one of my best friend’s transferred from Tech and begged and pleaded with LSU to open SAE again. They consented…Ironically he was killed in a car accident with a drunk driver in 2007 on Highland.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:51 pm to tigafan4life
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If this goes to trial, I would hate to be her parents when the defense tries to paint their daughter as a drunk slut that wanted anal and vaginal sex from two different people in the back of a truck. That would almost kill me to hear someone speak of my murdered daughter that way.
All involved, including the lawyers would get John Wicked.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:56 pm to Chef Curry
If that is lawyer talk I don’t know what that means.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:57 pm to John88
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I read that some friends left her when she was drunk, just curious if there’s any charges that could go against them
Whut? The only situation I can think of being legally responsible for another human's life is that of your minor children...
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:57 pm to Chad504boy
quote:no flags were half staff all over LA, TX and ARK today
I’ve noticed flags at half staff Covington today is it because of Madison?
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:03 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Does being vaginally and anally raped while 4x the legal limit drunk lead to confusion, trauma, disorientation so that dropping her off on the side road set her on a path to death as she was unable at that point to make any decision but immediately seek help, which she tried to do only to be run over?
I think so, yes. Seems obvious. I think resident lawyers will put too much stock in the DA not pursuing this as some kind of evidence it’s not viable.
I think Hillar Moore is just a puss.
Just from reading statutes, this seems way undercharged.
Seems 1st degree rape is possible, and potentially manslaughter and kidnapping.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:04 pm to VADawg
Have they ever said she was raped like that? It doesn’t matter I’ve just seen it on here a lot and haven’t read that anywhere.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:04 pm to HodsonTiger13
quote:had the perps been of her ilk those same would not be defending the perps.
The WAFB comments on Facebook have been interesting to track. Lot of hostility toward the bar but surprisingly toward the teen victim here.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:06 pm to GEAUX4
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Have they ever said she was raped like that? It doesn’t matter I’ve just seen it on here a lot and haven’t read that anywhere.
Yes. I believe it was part of the affidavit.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:06 pm to choupiquesushi
It probably would not be healthy for me to read all that.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:07 pm to djangochained
quote:... actually 1 anal the other V...
They anally raped this girl who was passed out.. they deserve to die
either way... need to be out of the gene pool
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:16 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Chat AI will replace us all soon.
Not me. My business is AI proof.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:17 pm to VADawg
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Lawyers do this kind of shite with absolutely zero hesitation and they don't give a shite how it makes the victim's family feel.
Derrick Todd Lee's attorney tried to explain his DNA being inside Murray Pace's body and condo because it was possible she invited him in and had sex with him before the real killer came to the condo.
Can't make that bullshite up. And yes the family had to hear that.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Kidnapping for sure. That'd extend out the time of their crimes closer to her death.
§44.1. Second degree kidnapping
A. Second degree kidnapping is the doing of any of the acts listed in Subsection B of this Section wherein the victim is any of the following:
(1) Used as a shield or hostage.
(2) Used to facilitate the commission of a felony or the flight after an attempt to commit or the commission of a felony.
(3) Physically injured or sexually abused. For the purposes of this Paragraph, "sexually abused" means that the victim was subjected to any sex offense as defined in R.S. 15:541.
(4) Imprisoned or kidnapped for seventy-two or more hours, except as provided in R.S. 14:45(A)(4) or (5).
(5) Imprisoned or kidnapped when the offender is armed with a dangerous weapon or leads the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon.
(6) Used to facilitate the commission of a simple escape or an aggravated escape, including a simple escape or aggravated escape from either an adult or juvenile correctional or detention facility, in violation of R.S. 14:110.
B. For purposes of this Section, kidnapping is any of the following:
(1) The forcible seizing and carrying of any person from one place to another.
(2) The enticing or persuading of any person to go from one place to another.
(3) The imprisoning or forcible secreting of any person.
(4) The forcible seizing of any corrections officer or any other official or employee of an adult or juvenile correctional or detention facility for any period of time whatsoever.
C. Whoever commits the crime of second degree kidnapping shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than five nor more than forty years. At least two years of the sentence imposed shall be without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
LINK
If they charge the perps with kidnapping, manslaughter, and video voyeurism they wouldn't be bonding out prior to trial.
§44.1. Second degree kidnapping
A. Second degree kidnapping is the doing of any of the acts listed in Subsection B of this Section wherein the victim is any of the following:
(1) Used as a shield or hostage.
(2) Used to facilitate the commission of a felony or the flight after an attempt to commit or the commission of a felony.
(3) Physically injured or sexually abused. For the purposes of this Paragraph, "sexually abused" means that the victim was subjected to any sex offense as defined in R.S. 15:541.
(4) Imprisoned or kidnapped for seventy-two or more hours, except as provided in R.S. 14:45(A)(4) or (5).
(5) Imprisoned or kidnapped when the offender is armed with a dangerous weapon or leads the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon.
(6) Used to facilitate the commission of a simple escape or an aggravated escape, including a simple escape or aggravated escape from either an adult or juvenile correctional or detention facility, in violation of R.S. 14:110.
B. For purposes of this Section, kidnapping is any of the following:
(1) The forcible seizing and carrying of any person from one place to another.
(2) The enticing or persuading of any person to go from one place to another.
(3) The imprisoning or forcible secreting of any person.
(4) The forcible seizing of any corrections officer or any other official or employee of an adult or juvenile correctional or detention facility for any period of time whatsoever.
C. Whoever commits the crime of second degree kidnapping shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than five nor more than forty years. At least two years of the sentence imposed shall be without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
LINK
If they charge the perps with kidnapping, manslaughter, and video voyeurism they wouldn't be bonding out prior to trial.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:20 pm to Chef Curry
their bonds have been made public. their lawyers have said quite a bit. with clarity in purpose this would come to a logical conclusion, without judgement. the troubles here would be over very quickly.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:21 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:too much nicotine and caffeine
Hodson means well, but he’s been getting things wrong all day long
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