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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:52 pm to jafari rastaman
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:52 pm to jafari rastaman
Reggie's is closed pending the ABC Board hearing.
That and the civil lawsuits coming. Likely never reopen. Like Murphy's after that guy was run over ages ago.
That and the civil lawsuits coming. Likely never reopen. Like Murphy's after that guy was run over ages ago.
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:04 pm to R11
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I’m just saying I don’t think it was premeditated.
Ok. So for what reason do you think they picked her up?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:04 pm to R11
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What about if they were impaired too? Why is it ok to play that card as it involves one of the persons involved and not the other? Pretty sure most people here would admit (at least to yourself) you’ve done things you regret and wish you could take back while under the influence. Not to mention two of these dudes were in fricking high school? Come on man.
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So if They were drunk or high or impaired in any way they should have known her incapacity?
Sober… I agree with you 100%
But you’re passing judgement on someone and saying “what they should have done” while not knowing their BAC or their level of impairment.
That’s not really fair.
I just don’t think this is cut and dry as many of y’all are trying to make it.
Holy shite, READ THE AFFIDAVIT.
There were about 10 different points in which a normal, reasonable, decent person would've realized that this girl was incapable of consenting or truly understanding what was happening. MULTIPLE - multiple - noticeable instances of this girl being completely incoherent and intoxicated.
And that is by one of the perpetrator's OWN accounts. There had to be a dozen more signs he didn't even bring up to the investigators that this girl was incapable of consenting.
She was passed out, slumped over in the back seat at one point. The first rapist had to ask her 5+ times if she wanted to have sex. OVER FIVE.
So on that 6th time when she was able to muster a "yes", you think a normal, reasonable guy would think "well there's the green light, she clearly consents!" HELL NO. They knew exactly what they were doing, and if you tell me you'd have sex with a girl in that same instance... Well then, you're a rapist.
Then came the second guy. He had to ask her another 5+ times in order to get a response from her. OVER FIVE AGAIN. And again this dude just went about his business sodomizing her, to the point that she had physical, visible injuries even after the accident. Meaning this is clearly not something this girl often (or ever) does, and was so incoherent he was able to continue long enough and rough enough to leave physical injuries.
And you want to play devil's advocate and say "what if she really wanted all that?"
If you read the affidavit and come away with the opinion that maybe these dudes aren't guilty of rape - VERY CLEARLY, by the way - then you're a creepy, rapey motherfricker. Doesn't matter if they were drinking or high themselves, this girl displayed numerous upon numerous signs that she was incapable of consenting and incoherent.
They knew exactly what they were doing, evidenced by the fact that they just dumped her somewhere random without a care after having this "glorious consensual sex". The driver of the car felt so bad about the occurrence that he showed up at the police station mere hours after the incident and spilled the beans to the cops.
At no point did these guys do anything that would constitute anything BUT a rape. They had numerous chances to do the right thing - or simply just NOT HAVE VAGINAL AND ANAL SEX - with her, but they chose to take advantage of her in her state.
Now, kindly frick off all of you that want to take ANY angle defending the actions of these guys or what they're accused of. It's cut and dry, by one of the perpetrator's OWN accounts of the night.
I added emphasis to certain words and sentences so maybe you - and the other few "we all wanted to hook up with drunk chicks at bars in our youth" rapey posters would maybe get it through your heads what *actually* happened
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:08 pm to RazorBroncs
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Holy shite, READ THE AFFIDAVIT.
There were about 10 different points in which a normal, reasonable, decent person would've realized that this girl was incapable of consenting or truly understanding what was happening. MULTIPLE - multiple - noticeable instances of this girl being completely incoherent and intoxicated.
And that is by one of the perpetrator's OWN accounts.
There had to be a dozen more signs he didn't even bring up to the investigators that this girl was incapable of consenting.
She was passed out, slumped over in the back seat at one point. The first rapist had to ask her 5+ times if she wanted to have sex. OVER FIVE.
So on that 6th time when she was able to muster a "yes", you think a normal, reasonable guy would think "well there's the green light, she clearly consents!" HELL NO. They knew exactly what they were doing, and if you tell me you'd have sex with a girl in that same instance... Well then, you're a rapist.
Then came the second guy. He had to ask her another 5+ times in order to get a response from her. OVER FIVE AGAIN. And again this dude just went about his business sodomizing her, to the point that she had physical, visible injuries even after the accident. Meaning this is clearly not something this girl often (or ever) does, and was so incoherent he was able to continue long enough and rough enough to leave physical injuries.
And you want to play devil's advocate and say "what if she really wanted all that?"
If you read the affidavit and come away with the opinion that maybe these dudes aren't guilty of rape - VERY CLEARLY, by the way - then you're a creepy, rapey motherfricker. Doesn't matter if they were drinking or high themselves, this girl displayed numerous upon numerous signs that she was incapable of consenting and incoherent.
They knew exactly what they were doing, evidenced by the fact that they just dumped her somewhere random without a care after having this "glorious consensual sex". The driver of the car felt so bad about the occurrence that he showed up at the police station mere hours after the incident and spilled the beans to the cops.
At no point did these guys do anything that would constitute anything BUT a rape. They had numerous chances to do the right thing - or simply just NOT HAVE VAGINAL AND ANAL SEX - with her, but they chose to take advantage of her in her state.
Now, kindly frick off all of you that want to take ANY angle defending the actions of these guys or what they're accused of. It's cut and dry, by one of the perpetrator's OWN accounts of the night.
Perfectly stated. This is the response to any of the 5 or so in this thread who are committed to being on the defense team.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:10 pm to R11
quote:the exact reason they went to Reggie’s was to get some arse
I’m just saying I don’t think it was premeditated.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:10 pm to GreenRockTiger
They anally raped this girl who was passed out.. they deserve to die
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:11 pm to RazorBroncs
If I was her dad I would hope they wouldn’t get any jail time !!! I would rather deal with the problem myself!!
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 pm to RazorBroncs
RazorBroncs with an accurate summary.
It looks like they dropped her off (see the map posted a couple pages back) in a neighborhood off Burbank.
She was struck by a ride share but was this her ride share? Was she able to contact one, or was she just flagging down a car hoping for help (as was originally reported)?
As for the possible manslaughter charge, they failed to take her anywhere safe or make sure she had anyone able to help her or take care of her.
it seems she likely came to enough to know she needed to get the heck out of that vehicle and demanded to be let out.
Would the rape crime qualify for the manslaughter language or does a passage of time - 5 or 10 minutes - mean they won't be charged?
Clearly it was rape and video voyeurism if they taped themselves having sex with someone drunk.
But was it manslaughter?
It looks like they dropped her off (see the map posted a couple pages back) in a neighborhood off Burbank.
She was struck by a ride share but was this her ride share? Was she able to contact one, or was she just flagging down a car hoping for help (as was originally reported)?
As for the possible manslaughter charge, they failed to take her anywhere safe or make sure she had anyone able to help her or take care of her.
it seems she likely came to enough to know she needed to get the heck out of that vehicle and demanded to be let out.
Would the rape crime qualify for the manslaughter language or does a passage of time - 5 or 10 minutes - mean they won't be charged?
Clearly it was rape and video voyeurism if they taped themselves having sex with someone drunk.
But was it manslaughter?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:13 pm to R11
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You’re assuming I dont think they should face the music
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I’m just saying I don’t think it was premeditated.
I’m not assuming anything. Your words, not mine:
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These dudes did what most guys go to bars looking to do. Hook up with some hot drunk chick.
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They didn’t force liquor down her throat.
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Fact is …many here have some same thing these dudes did but only difference was the girl didn’t get run over and killed. I’ll admit I have had plenty drunk sex with chicks when I was younger.
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After reading the arrest warrant ……Not sure that’s exactly how this story went. The rape was consensual sex
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Fact is had the young lady not died none of you would be this upset about what happened in the car.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:16 pm to R11
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I’m just saying I don’t think it was premeditated.
And third degree rape doesn’t require premeditation.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:18 pm to R11
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R11
It seems like you don't understand just how bad a .319 BAC really is. She may have needed her stomach pumped had she lived.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:20 pm to R11
If a girl is too drunk to say where she lives, she can't consent to sex.
It is shocking that this is controversial.
It is shocking that this is controversial.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:20 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
If this goes to trial, I would hate to be her parents when the defense tries to paint their daughter as a drunk slut that wanted anal and vaginal sex from two different people in the back of a truck. That would almost kill me to hear someone speak of my murdered daughter that way.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:21 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
Liquor license already gone as of today
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:21 pm to Deactived
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This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:21 pm to financetiger
Pure hypothetical for our legal experts.
Would the charges change to reckless homicide and 1st degree rape if a witness came forward from Reggie’s who claimed something was slipped in her drink and the accused perpetrators in this case tried to get her to go with them?
Would the charges change to reckless homicide and 1st degree rape if a witness came forward from Reggie’s who claimed something was slipped in her drink and the accused perpetrators in this case tried to get her to go with them?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:22 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
3rd degree rape penalty:
Penalty
Whoever commits the crime of simple rape shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor for not more than 25 yrs, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
Sex Offender Registry
Penalty
Whoever commits the crime of simple rape shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor for not more than 25 yrs, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
Sex Offender Registry
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:22 pm to R11
Buddy, this is Louisiana. We drank all thru high school to the point of puking etc. This shite never could’ve even entered my consciousness in any state. Do we all regret things? Yea like plowing over a mailbox for fun after some beers, not fricking assaulting a female and ruining her whole life.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:23 pm to R11
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I’m just saying I don’t think it was premeditated.
Who the frick cares!
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think bad decisions were made by all
Involved due usage of alcohol and drugs.
Apparently you think rape is a “bad decision.”
I’ve been drunk many, many times in my life. I’ve done and said things I’m not proud of while drunk. I’ve never even come close to committing any kind of rape.
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