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Red Beans in a Slow Cooker Could Be Dangerous?
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:45 pm
This is news to me.
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Cooking dried beans in a slow cooker is incredibly convenient. Just throw them in with a bit of a broth and several hours later you'll be rewarded with some creamy and tender legumes. But if you try this method with red kidney beans, you risk giving yourself a severe case of food poisoning.
According to research from the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA), red kidney beans contain high levels of a toxin called phytohaemagglutinin (PHA) that causes extreme nausea, severe vomiting, and sometimes abdominal pain. PHA is present in red kidney beans that are still partially raw from undercooking, or haven't been heated to a safe temperature to destroy the toxin. The low temperatures of a slow cooker may not heat them sufficiently.
Red Kidney Bean Poisoning, as it's named by the FDA, has a rapid onset and the severity of symptoms is related to the amount of contaminated beans that are consumed. White kidney beans, by comparison, have only around one-third the toxin amount that red kidney beans contain. While this information may sound scary, it shouldn't stop you from enjoying kidney beans. All you need to do is use the simple method below to ensure that what you're cooking is safe for you and your family.
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How to Safely Prepare Dried Red Kidney Beans
These instructions follow the U.S. Food & Drug Administration's recommendations:
Soak - Raw kidney beans need to soak in water for at least five hours.
Boil - Drain the beans and change to a fresh pot of water. Bring to a boil (212 degrees F/100 degrees C) for a minimum of 10 minutes.
Prepare - Once you've followed the previous two instructions, your kidney beans are no longer toxic and can finish cooking in whatever method you prefer, such as in a slow cooker or on the stove top.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:49 pm to Gris Gris
crazy. I only ever cook red beans in a crock pot.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:55 pm to Gris Gris
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Soak - Raw kidney beans need to soak in water for at least five hours. Boil - Drain the beans and change to a fresh pot of water. Bring to a boil (212 degrees F/100 degrees C) for a minimum of 10 minutes.

Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:13 pm to Uncle JackD
I feel fortunate to have escaped the illness all these years.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:24 pm to Gris Gris
Lets talk cooking and physics:
At sea level, water boils at 212 degrees F. You can add heat, and with 540 calories of energy required to turn 212 degree water to steam. This is called the latent heat of vaporization. At sea level, that steam will still be 212 degrees F. and no hotter. If your slow cooker is bubbling any at all and water vapor is coming off, The water is no less hot than a burner operating at full heat. The water may boil faster, but it is no hotter.
IMO, as long as you cook the beans to the softness most Louisiana folks see as being done, There is no problem with toxic denaturization.
I am unaware of anyone who eats crispy kidney beans.
IMO, this report lacks a lot of credibility and reeks of fear mongering by some reporter.
At sea level, water boils at 212 degrees F. You can add heat, and with 540 calories of energy required to turn 212 degree water to steam. This is called the latent heat of vaporization. At sea level, that steam will still be 212 degrees F. and no hotter. If your slow cooker is bubbling any at all and water vapor is coming off, The water is no less hot than a burner operating at full heat. The water may boil faster, but it is no hotter.
IMO, as long as you cook the beans to the softness most Louisiana folks see as being done, There is no problem with toxic denaturization.
I am unaware of anyone who eats crispy kidney beans.
IMO, this report lacks a lot of credibility and reeks of fear mongering by some reporter.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:32 pm to Gris Gris
Aw shucks GG!
Now I am red with embarrissment.
Now I am red with embarrissment.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:53 pm to Gris Gris
If anyone had heard of this it would be someone from Louisiana. I never soak my beans and I’ve eaten hard beans while tasting. I do parboil them and soak for about an hour while I chop and sauté the fixins.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:02 pm to DaBeerz
Exactly. I usually cook mine on the stove but my sister only makes her in the crockpot and I think my mom does either depending on her mood. I think we are fine 

Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:56 pm to Gris Gris
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According to research from the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA)
Call me when there is a trustworthy source on this.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:04 pm to Gris Gris
Everyone in NO should be dead from beans poisoning instead of lead poisoning. I have never soaked beans, just cook them longer
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:05 pm to Gris Gris
frick the FDA! Bunch of gotdamn commies. This article is pure bullshite!!!
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:57 pm to Gris Gris
I’ve made 13 bean soup I don’t know how many times in the crockpot without issue. Chili as well.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:48 pm to Gris Gris
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How to Safely Prepare Dried Red Kidney Beans These instructions follow the U.S. Food & Drug Administration's recommendations: Soak - Raw kidney beans need to soak in water for at least five hours.
The federal government at work.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:29 pm to gizmothepug
I've never soaked red beans in 30 yrs. Always add to boiling stock and have NEVER felt any medical issues. As long as your slow cooker gets to the boiling point, there is no problem This article is pure Bull Sh_t.
Ignore it.
Ignore it.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:33 am to Gris Gris
I usually boil first before going in a slow cooker
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:37 am to Gris Gris
FDA doesn’t know slow cookers get hot.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:41 am to MeridianDog
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IMO, as long as you cook the beans to the softness most Louisiana folks see as being done, There is no problem with toxic denaturization.
I am unaware of anyone who eats crispy kidney beans.
IMO, this report lacks a lot of credibility and reeks of fear mongering by some reporter.
I'm top of this, I'm sure there is some pasteurization over time even if you don't hit boiling.
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