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Dollar General Employee Charged With Manslaughter After Killing Armed Robber in LA
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:45 am
Dollar General Employee Charged With Manslaughter After Killing Armed Robber, Says 6th Time In 5 Months Store Was Robbed
According to local police, Rafus Anderson was working at the downtown Monroe location when the robbery took place. Per Fox 5 Vegas, when the thief took the money from the register and attempted to leave the store, the employee pulled out a gun and fired more than one shot in his direction. The suspect was hit along with an innocent bystander who was shopping at the time.
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According to local police, Rafus Anderson was working at the downtown Monroe location when the robbery took place. Per Fox 5 Vegas, when the thief took the money from the register and attempted to leave the store, the employee pulled out a gun and fired more than one shot in his direction. The suspect was hit along with an innocent bystander who was shopping at the time.
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:46 am to djmed
Looks like that robber won't be a problem anymore.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:47 am to djmed
If you are ever in a position to rely on self defense, it's not a good idea to shoot the aggressor in the back while he/she flees.
It doesn't automatically screw you, but you can get convicted. Remember that incident in Oklahoma (IIRC) a few years ago?
It doesn't automatically screw you, but you can get convicted. Remember that incident in Oklahoma (IIRC) a few years ago?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:49 am to djmed
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Per Fox 5 Vegas,
Why are we getting a Las Vegas station's news story for this?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:50 am to djmed
Should have aimed for the knees
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you are ever in a position to rely on self defense, it's not a good idea to shoot the aggressor in the back while he/she flees.
That's a fact.
The heat of a moment is hard to always know how to respond in, but you do need to have major calculations going on if you want to be a responsible gun owner. Now, I don't agree that you should get charged. Personally, if you present an armed threat I don't care if you're running away. That is a live session of threat, and it's fair game. but legally, you are very right.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Remember that incident in Oklahoma (IIRC) a few years ago?
That dude got rung up because he shot a robber in the head, completely incapacitating (but not killing) the perp. He then went and retrieved an additional handgun and executed the guy.
I'd say that's a bit different.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
yeah not good to shoot in the back and aim must have been bad since he hit a bystander too.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:53 am to ShoeBang
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I'd say that's a bit different.
Sure but the general point remains. Once the immediate threat of the aggressor is over, what you can do in response decreases a great deal.
The available "defense" options in the example in OK were much more limited than the story in OP.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:56 am to ShoeBang
Defense counsel will successfully argue that the clerk was in a traumatic state of shock and still felt threatened for his life.
POS is dead so move on Monroe DA.
POS is dead so move on Monroe DA.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:20 am to djmed
quote:Prediction: This thread will devolve into name-calling by (i) those who think this is just fine because a criminal is dead and against (ii) those who largely-agree but who also understand the applicable law.
Dollar General Employee Charged With Manslaughter After Killing Armed Robber
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:21 am to djmed
Even though the deceased was committing a crime, the survivors will be suing DG and they will win a lot of money. I'm guessing somewhere north of a million.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:23 am to Barneyrb
quote:either that or DG will build a store in their front yard
Even though the deceased was committing a crime, the survivors will be suing DG and they will win a lot of money. I'm guessing somewhere north of a million.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:25 am to djmed
It's a shame that you can't shoot somebody that's stealing your property.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you are ever in a position to rely on self defense, it's not a good idea to shoot the aggressor in the back while he/she flees.
Yeah bc it's no longer a defensive shooting
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:26 am to MrLSU
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the armed robber could stop, turn around and shoot somebody as he’s going out the door.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:28 am to sonuvapitcher
Let me know how that defense plays out in court
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you are ever in a position to rely on self defense, it's not a good idea to shoot the aggressor in the back while he/she flees.
Armed robbery should supersede shooting someone in the back. If you stick a gun in someone's face and steal their money, a potential outcome of that could be getting shot in the back when you turn to leave. If the clerk had attempted to draw their weapon while the robber was facing them, they could have been shot.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Who determines when that is, though?
Once the immediate threat of the aggressor is over
Who's to say he doesn't come back in to eliminate witnesses?
Apparently fleeing isn't necessarily fleeing.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:30 am to mauser
quote:The underlying legal presumption is that a human life is worth more than "stuff."
It's a shame that you can't shoot somebody that's stealing your property.
That validity of that presumption is certainly subject to reasonable debate.
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