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re: Best options for new NFL and NBA stadiums out of dangerous NOLA?

Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:01 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55838 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:01 am to
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here's nothing inherently ridiculous about an NFL team there.
yes there is. it's borderline insane to think it's an actual possibility.

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Secaucus, NJ has two NFL teams,
you're comparing a metro area of almost 20 million to one that is barely over 1 million . east rutherford also isn't 40 miles away from the majority of the fanbase/season ticket holders.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16897 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:02 am to
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Seems inevitable.



Maybe St. Louis recruits the Saints.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34813 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:05 am to
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I dunno, Lafayette?
hell naw we don’t won’t that shite. Keep the trash in NOLA
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29239 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:06 am to
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Secaucus, NJ has two NFL teams, and I'm sure people from Manhattan laughed at that idea when it was first floated.


Why would they have? At the time the Meadowlands was first proposed, both the Giants and Jets played in the Bronx and Queens respectively. Secaucus is also relatively close to Manhattan.
Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
1664 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:11 am to
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That said, there's nothing inherently ridiculous about an NFL team there. Secaucus, NJ has two NFL teams, and I'm sure people from Manhattan laughed at that idea when it was first floated.

It’s all a contiguous population center. You don’t have to go through sparsely populated woods and swamps to get there
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6605 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:15 am to
Since the State owns the Superdome we should have the National Guard unbolt it and ship it to Bunkie.
There is plenty of land there for parking and tailgating.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:16 am to
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east rutherford also isn't 40 miles away from the majority of the fanbase/season ticket holders.


I suspect the majority of Jets fans and the majority of Saints fans already drive >40 miles
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 9:21 am
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:19 am to
Miss Gulf Coast
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:22 am to
NOLA apologists out in force in this thread
Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
1664 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:25 am to
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NOLA apologists

As if this is a pejorative. It’s like how they label people climate change “deniers”
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55838 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:26 am to
i suspect the majority of jets fans don't drive to games at all and just lol at saints fans. you think most saints fans are coming from the northshore or baton rouge? no chance
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:26 am to
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suspect the majority of Jets fans and the majority of Saints fans already drive >40 miles


A lot take the train too. No parking and about a 30 minute ride.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:31 am to
I live in NOLA and it is a shithole right now. There is no excuse for it and Latoya will keep it a sinking ship.

Saying that there is no chance that either team moves anytime soon is not being an apologist, it is reality. Neither team is moving anytime soon. Gayle Benson is alive and well, there are long term leases.

On top of that, there aren't many viable alternatives. With the specter of LA gone, there aren't many markets for an NFL team to move to that are viable, and the league wants a Gulf Coast presence.

Its the worst kept secret in the NBA that Las Vegas and Seattle are getting expansion franchises within the next decade. Once that happens, where are the Pels going to move to. There's also been pretty extensive discussions about a new Arena for the Pels in the new Convention Center complex being discussed.


Neither are going anywhere anytime soon.

NOLA is also a total shithole.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4619 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:34 am to
Saints definitely aren’t leaving. And as long as the Pels are winning, they aren’t leaving either.
Posted by MarsellusWallace
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Member since Apr 2022
383 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:34 am to
Additionally, we have space for a football & basketball complex inside the city. Manhattan does not. Not even close to the same comparison.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
971 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:37 am to
The Seattle Pelicans. Makes about as much sense as the Utah Jazz. I'd hate to see it happen, my son is 3 and loves basketball. Bought cheap seat season tickets to LSU and he couldn't be happier. I'd love to take him to some Pels games but I just don't feel it's safe. Putting my personal safety and property is one thing, bringing a 3 year old into that shithole is another. I really hope they turn it around or as soon as Gayle goes we will also have the San Antonio Saints.
Posted by MarsellusWallace
504
Member since Apr 2022
383 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:37 am to
This.....
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:47 am to
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i suspect the majority of jets fans don't drive to games at all and just lol at saints fans. you think most saints fans are coming from the northshore or baton rouge? no chance


IDK, but the Saints are extremely regional. There are a lot of people from places like Laplace, Biloxi, the Northshore, and so on. A 40-mile drive feels like about the median.

New Orleans is very parochial. Uptown people have a blind spot with respect to the 'region' but the region exists and supports the Saints.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16897 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:56 am to
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On top of that, there aren't many viable alternatives. With the specter of LA gone, there aren't many markets for an NFL team to move to that are viable, and the league wants a Gulf Coast presence.



Like the Texans or Bucs?

The risk out there is that not only is New Orleans becoming less and less attractive to outsiders because of crime concerns......even on a good day, it's a very small market.

Gayle Benson has "pledged" to keep the Saints in Louisiana long term, but have their actually signed a lease in the dome beyond 2025? Should we expect them to demand a new retractable roof stadium somewhere late next year or threaten to leave? That might mean moving the Saints to Tiger Stadium for a couple of seasons while the dome is actually replaced entirely. But you might run into resistance from state taxpayers in investing close to $1 billion in a location that is far less desirable than it used to be.

IMO the state should quietly develop a plan to build a new retractable roof stadium somewhere in case the Saints demand one. Somewhere easy to get to for New Orleans, the north shore, Baton Rouge, and Lafayette and can be used for college sports, concerts, etc.

The dome is not exactly a spring chicken. It's not the state of the art arena that other markets can potentially provide and what NFL teams are often getting now. The Saints are definitely there until 2025. But beyond that, the state taxpayers are going to have to throw a huge amount of cash into the dome every year to keep them until 2035 and beyond. And there will be the possibility that they threaten to leave without getting a brand new facility.

And that's not a surprise. The state taxpayers are accustomed to subsidizing amenities for New Orleans. The broke, corrupt, and small city can't support itself anyways.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:58 am to
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The state taxpayers are accustomed to subsidizing amenities for New Orleans.




What is it they subsidize with money not collected in New Orleans?
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