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Update on landfill fire just east of Birmingham (re-updated Jan 11)

Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5565 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:31 am
Jan 11 update for my Jefferson and St Clair county brethren:

St Clair County, where the fire is located, has contacted 4 companies about putting out the fire but is asking the state and EPA for their opinions on who to choose, they don't want to make things worse (not sure if possible) and because there may be a criminal prosecution so the landfill could be a crime scene and I guess it should only be disturbed in a very planned way. It sounds like the county will draft a report within a week and submit it to the state with hopes that the state will take the lead.

The state environmental agency, ADEM, put out a statement yesterday saying that they haven't heard from St Clair County yet but says they will offer whatever expertise they can to help the county make a decision, which doesn't exactly sound like they are ready or able to take the reigns.

St Clair County won't name the 4 companies being considered or the methods they could use. At the meeting the county said the companies gave them a timeline of 30 days to put out the fire but when interviewed the county engineer seemed a little skeptical of that.

Meanwhile, the smoke is brutal today. I've got a new Blueair purifier cranked and it seems to be holding its own.

............

This time with dramatic drone footage.

It's still burning and still smells like a tire covered in cat piss then set on fire. It's really brutal to deal with on days when the wind is sending it your way. Over 100k folks are within reach of the stench.

The Alabama Department of Environmental Management is catching serious fire for not being able to do anything about it.

It's supposed to be only a green waste landfill and understandably green waste disposal is not regulated but I've very skeptical that green waste would burn for 6 weeks with all the rain we've had and it doesn't smell like just trees and leaves.

ADEM inspected it in 2018 and found tires and hazardous waste on the site but says owners removed all of it, which I'm also very skeptical about because you can see how deep the landfill is. ADEM just got some air monitors from the EPA to check for toxic smoke contaminants.



The poor bastards who live next to the thing.



AL.com update
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:33 am to
quote:

smells like a tire covered in cat piss then set on fire
so it smells like Birmingham
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31289 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:35 am to
That environmental landfill is sure putting a lot of carbon into the atmosphere.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35116 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:36 am to
Got a house on a hill next to the trash dump! Prime location!
For sale 350,000
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Houston/BR
Member since Aug 2021
570 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:42 am to
Not sure how this fire started but if it started subterranean - there’s really no putting it out. Theres landfills that have been on fire below the surface for years. And typically the owner walks away, and lets the state take over.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41199 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:22 am to
I can smell that shite every morning here at the house. We are probably 10 miles southeast of it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64763 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:26 am to
When I was a field rep one of the industrial landfill customers I called on had a tire fire. It broke out on a Saturday night and they had it put out by the next afternoon. They did it by using a Cat D6T dozer and 349 excavator to smother the fire with dirt brought up to the top of the landfill by their fleet of 740 articulated trucks. They’re supposed to be trained to handle this sort of thing. Not sure why this landfill can’t get this fire put out.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:45 am to
quote:

The poor bastards who live next to the thing.


My uncle's family lives RIGHT next to it, opposite direction of the homes in the photo.

Even before the fires started they've been fighting the new owners. They've been leaving trash uncovered for months, when it's supposed to be buried every night to cover the smell better. They are livid. My aunt has lupus, so it's not lot she's in great health to begin with.

My parents live in Odenville, and the smoke reached them yesterday. My mom grew up in the foothills of Mt St Helens, and she only has about 50% lung capacity because of the ash she inhaled when it blew its top. So this smoke is REALLY bothering her. But she's being stubborn and won't come stay with us.

edit: the landfill accepts home trash. I've even dumped hot tubs there. They take all kinds of trash there.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5801 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:59 am to
Living in Carrington has sucked for weeks.
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
2149 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:43 am to
The designer of an underground landfill seems like the kid who used to just sweep everything under his bed and forget about it when he was told to clean his room as a kid
Posted by Jalbow3
Trussville
Member since Oct 2008
4076 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 1:00 pm to
It's been terrible today. I left the basement door open earlier by mistake and the house smells like a campfire. I'm between Trussville and Springville on highway 11.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20130 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:20 pm to
Hard for us Louisiana baws to get too excited about your issue. Are you familiar with the term, bagasse?
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:53 pm to
Need to call this guy.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10324 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:39 pm to
I can smell it some mornings. Smells like a campfire.
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