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re: 'The Last Jedi' was released 5 years ago today

Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:03 am to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51756 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:03 am to
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I hope they both end up penniless and destitute, sucking trucker cocks behind a Jet24 in Bunkie.


Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25592 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:04 am to
Whoever told Hollywood that real fans who don't like garbage treatment of an established IP are 'trolls' needs to be BTFO.

It's such a cringe take to dunk on those who have literally paved the way for current and future(?) projects that carry the banner to continue.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5434 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:34 am to
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I loved it. Still do.
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
877 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:37 am to
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"It subverted expectations."



Subverting expectations
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34605 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:34 am to
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'The Last Jedi' was released 5 years ago today


And the M/TV Board was never the same after. Seriously, this movie single handedly dropped the quality of posting on this board.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34605 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:45 am to


I'm not a big Star Wars fan, so I didn't care nearly as much as most, but of all the dumb things in this movie, this was by far the worst.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25238 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:01 pm to
I hated it the first time I saw it and I have not changed my opinion since. Afterwards... with the hindsight of time... I still hate it.

I may hate it even more. Fav and Fil had to move Heaven and Earth to bring the franchise back to life. It was an objectively bad movie, the editing, the script, the pacing... it sucked for the cycle.

The tug between the dark side and the light... Luke and Leia trying to pull her in one direction while Snook Doggy Dog and Darth Beiber tried to corrupt Rey... that was a story you could tell and people would love it.

I know several writers that could fart that story arc out in a weekend and it would be better than what we got.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48198 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:56 pm to
My son was 8 at the time, it was the first movie we went to see that he criticized.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
I still haven’t seen Episode IX because of this movie. I’m not actively avoiding it, I just don’t care enough to see it. I’ve heard how it goes and I’m good.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4371 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:57 pm to
I just remember being out of the country, and getting some texts from friends saying that it was terrible thinking there is no possible way a Star Wars movie could be that bad and they were messing with me, it's fricking Star Wars for gods sake. Then I watched the movie, was completely speechless that it was that terrible.

Force Awakens was very safe, but it did a good job of setting up the new trilogy, Last Jedi completely nuked everything about the trilogy.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4351 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:17 pm to
I maintain that it is the most poorly executed film of all time because of how easily it could have been a fan pleasing movie. Everything was set up, even the opening scene between Luke and Rey. The ball was an inch from the hole. It couldn’t have been easier.

All people wanted to see was Luke as a Jedi Master fricking shite up and talking Force wisdom. They couldn’t have missed on that if they tried, which is what they apparently did.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71800 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 5:18 pm to
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I still haven’t seen Episode IX because of this movie.


Probably a good thing, because it was actually worse.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:11 pm to
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frick Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy. I hope they both end up penniless and destitute, sucking trucker cocks behind a Jet24 in Bunkie.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57962 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 12:11 am to


But really it was the most disappointed i’ve ever been coming out of a theater. In one fell swoop, Rian Johnson put Star Wars movies on an irreversible course of shite.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57962 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 12:12 am to
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Probably a good thing, because it was actually worse


Trying to retcon an entire movie while adding more shite to the to top of the heap isn’t a wise plan.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47790 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:25 am to
Dern's character was insufferable.
The prank phone call had me worried but when Luke tossed the light saber over his shoulder off the cliff I knew we were fricked.

Casino scene was pointless.
The OJ Chase in space was ridiculous.

They missed a fat meatball of fan service for a homerun with the coolest scene in this shite show by not having Admiral Akbar be the one to go kamikaze and say it’s a trap just before doing it. All because the force is female and it had to be woman making the sacrifice.

The Leia scene is just so unspeakably bad I can’t believe anybody much less professionals thought it was a good idea.

Snoke being a nothing character was just a waste.

It’s like the people that made this film didn’t watch The Force Awakens.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11936 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:40 am to
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"It subverted expectations."

It sure did. I expected it to be good. Boy were my expectations subverted.
Posted by thenza
Member since Sep 2013
816 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:14 am to
To begin, I hate the movie. Passionately.
I hate the whole sequel trilogy. Passionately.

That said, Adam Driver was great with what he was given. I fundamentally disagree with almost every creative choice made in the entire set of movies with the exception of Kylo Ren.

Swap a few things and it could have been a good premise.

Keep Rey. Daisy Ridley was pretty likable. She isn’t from a desert planet. In fact, when the movie begins she’s already a Jedi in Luke’s school.

Keep Finn. He’s a stormtrooper. Not from birth. Just a fanatic who believes in order and thinks logically and is fairly emotionless.

Keep Kylo Ren. He was a savant in force school. But he wanted more.

The Empire still exists but it’s more of a North Korea than a real power.

Han, Leia, and Luke are all alive, together, and involved in running the New Republic and Jedi, respectively.

Kylo Ren kills a few Jedi students and convinces a few to leave with him to find real power in the force. They join the empire, which hasn’t really been all that violent in 30 years, just kinda repressive. The Empire then starts doing terroristic guerilla attacks on the good guys. Finn is involved in one and doesn’t see the concept of “order” in murdering civilians so he defects. He maintains the attitude of a stormtrooper throughout the trilogy, because he’s the comic relief. Not in a slapstick way, but in his tendency to take everything literal. He’s basically the K2-SO of the series. Luke and Rey set out to find Kylo Ren and turn him back or kill him. He senses that Rey loves him. He tries to turn her. They fight. They love. There’s the conflict.

There are no Death Stars. There is no Palpatine or Snoke. There is no Poe. There is absolutely no purple-haired lesbian.

Maybe the Empire has allowed the Hutts and other gangsters to operate freely in their territory in order to help with controlling the masses. Kind of a 90s Russia thing. That could let the story vary up the bad guys a but beyond just stormtroopers.

It honestly shouldn’t have been terribly hard to make good movies out of this. Angry lesbians killed Star Wars in an attempt to show how smart they are and how weak men are. Who’d a thought?
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:18 am to
Woke ruins everything.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3760 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:00 am to
This was the first Star Wars movie I refused to watch. I still haven’t seen it.
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