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AP Admits Alex Jones Trial Was Just For ‘Show’ And Will Soon Be Thrown Out

Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:36 am
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According to a recent report by the Associated Press, the Alex Jones trial was all just a show and is likely to be tossed out on appeal since the case is rests on questionable legal grounds.

Attorney Tre Lovell told the AP on Sunday that Jones has “significant issues” he can present on appeal, including the fact Jones was defaulted by the courts before the Texas and Connecticut trials even began.

“This is far from over. Alex Jones You know, there’s a number of things that you can do. First of all, he’s going to appeal, according to his attorneys, and there are some significant issues on appeal,” Lovell told AP. “This is a very unusual trial. The court basically put him in default and they went straight to damages. And that’s very unusual.”

Infowars.com reports: Lovell explained that the courts could have taken a number of steps before resorting to defaulting Jones.

“And that’s a very draconian ruling by a court that’s a ruling that’s the last choice a court will have. And a court of appeal is going to really scrutinize that,” he said. “A judge is required to, if a litigant is not participating in discovery or is violating, you know, the litigation standards…there’s a number of things that a judge can do before actually putting in default.”

“And also with damages, you know, they can look at damages,” he continued. “You know, the the the damages award needs to be supported by the evidence. And now, although jurors have a lot of room with what we call noneconomic damages, which are damages for emotional distress, reputation to turn to one’s profession in a defamation case. Still, a court is going to look at that. And so so the appellate side is very rich here.”

Lovell went on to say that Jones filing for bankruptcy presents a unique challenge to the courts trying to collect the $1.5 billion:

quote:

And it’s very possible this judgment could get discharged in bankruptcy. It’s it’s very there are a few debts that are not dischargeable, but there’s a high standard to meet those, proving a bankruptcy court, why a debt should not be discharged.

So it’s very it’s very possible that both the compensate for damages award and even the punitive damages award, depending on what it’s based, could be discharged. And if that’s the case, this judgment wiped out. And on top of that, he continues his fundraising off of the trial with with his base. He can start to build up his coffers.



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Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69182 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:38 am to
Moral of the story is to not allow default judgments to be entered against you.
Posted by BlueCheckCertified
Member since Dec 2022
70 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

You know, the the the damages award


Does the person that wrote this have a hand stutter?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119893 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:39 am to
This could carry out for many years. He is still a piece of shite.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119893 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Does the person that wrote this have a hand stutter?


Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3191 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:45 am to
I bought some DNA Force Plus and a fluoride shield in support of Alex Jones. Might get some SuperFood Greens as well. Man speaks the truth: jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31697 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

This could carry out for many years. He is still a piece of shite.


Purdue was found guilty of lying to the public about Oxy and burying studies which lead to 1000s of deaths and addition and were fined 1/3 of what Jones is being ordered to pay for saying words that he walked back and apologized for before a suit was brought up.

He can be a piece of shite (he is for this particular instance) and you can still see the absolute insanity of the size of the ruling.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66884 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:48 am to
I think at one time the AP was not as bad as their partisan hack selves are now.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29118 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:50 am to
Did an editor even look at that article?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85328 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Purdue was found guilty of lying to the public about Oxy and burying studies which lead to 1000s of deaths and addition and were fined 1/3 of what Jones is being ordered to pay for saying words that he walked back and apologized for before a suit was brought up.

He can be a piece of shite (he is for this particular instance) and you can still see the absolute insanity of the size of the ruling.



Dude, you can't question doctors and pharma on the OT. This is the vaxx and boosted crowd.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26365 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:51 am to
Jones is a world class a-hole.

But the judgement against him was so ridiculous that you'd think he was the trigger man. That was a political judgement. It was not based on or grounded by reality. It's every bit as insane as the claims Jones made on the incident initially IMO.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10667 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

And it’s very possible this judgment could get discharged in bankruptcy.


Except you generally cannot discharge debts for intentional torts. And defamation is an intentional tort. So there's that.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13039 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:55 am to
That paragon of journalistic integrity "Envolve" prints an article with no by-line, citing an unidentified AP article reporting what one of Jones' lawyers says, and you post "AP admits Alex Jones trial was just for "show"...?
Really?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44660 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Purdue was found guilty of lying to the public about Oxy and burying studies which lead to 1000s of deaths and addition and were fined 1/3 of what Jones is being ordered to pay for saying words that he walked back and apologized for before a suit was brought up.

He can be a piece of shite (he is for this particular instance) and you can still see the absolute insanity of the size of the ruling.


This. 1.5B ??? After a questionable default ruling? People who are ok with this bc they don’t like AJ are a major part of our litigation problems. Same people who bitch about someone being awarded $1M for what they consider stupid.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11387 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Did an editor even look at that article?


I think you're expecting too much if you think there's an editorial process going on at an outfit that publishes "Bill Gates Admits to plans of creating catastrophic contagion..." and Canada announces plan to euthanize its depressed citizens.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11387 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:58 am to
quote:

That paragon of journalistic integrity "Envolve" prints an article with no by-line, citing an unidentified AP article reporting what one of Jones' lawyers says, and you post "AP admits Alex Jones trial was just for "show"...?
Really?


Gumbo's standards are pretty low. The other day he was trying to pill people on the idea that you can catch the vax from other people.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90958 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Gumbo's standards are pretty low. The other day he was trying to pill people on the idea that you can catch the vax from other people.
how many boosters have you had?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11387 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:00 am to
17 times. *wink wink*
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56717 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:01 am to
quote:


AP Admits Alex Jones Trial Was Just For ‘Show’ And Will Soon Be Thrown Out


No shite. Any court ordering eleventy-billion in damages is beyond absurd. Nothing Jones said led to the death of anyone. He got caught up in his conspiracy theories, said something stupid, then parents out of anger, let their lawyers get greedy and sue him for the GDP of a small country.

It was stupidity at it's finest, and no matter how "harmful" words may appear, they are just words and are not subject to legal recourse (yelling "fire", etc... not withholding).
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 10:02 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19694 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:01 am to
I never thought "lawyer for guy who lost case says he'll appeal" rises to the level of BREAKING NEWS - but here we are.
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