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re: Bad feeling it comes down to committee picking 11-2 LSU or 11-1 Georgia if we win out

Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99821 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:11 pm to
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LSU will make the playoffs if we win the SEC Championship


Assuming a win against TAMU, this is correct.
Posted by tigersaint24
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
1728 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:22 pm to
One thing to factor in. Does Tennessee beat Vandy without hooker? If Tennessee loses winning out might not help
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:33 pm to
One of Ohio State/Michigan drops with a L this weekend. With a W on Saturday that should put LSU at worst at 4-5 heading into the SECCG. Some of you are suggesting we would just…not move, or go down even, after beating the unbeaten defending national champs? I just cannot buy that.

Let’s say it looks like this going in:

1. UGA
2. OSU/UM
3. TCU
4. USC
5. LSU
6. Clemson

If we win, UGA’s best wins would be Oregon/Tennessee. Ours would be Alabama/UGA themselves, both likely still top 8 teams. AND we’d have the same conference record but LSU would have a conference championship. We’d also have the better 3rd win. One resume is clearly better here despite a 1-point loss on a missed XP in week 1.

There is no way in hell that, assuming the others win out too, the committee could justify UGA in over LSU. Particularly if we win convincingly. I feel like they’d be the one left out honestly. We’ve seen it before, WHEN you lose is a big factor.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1587 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:33 pm to
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zero historical precedent to suggest that's true.

Oklahoma 2003. They, like UGA, were heads and tails above everyone on the regular season.


That was BCS my dude. Oklahoma was ranked #3 by the human element but was #1 in the computer polls. We don’t use computer polls anymore.

So, NO. Still zero historical precedent.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2282 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:35 pm to
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my opinion, if Lsu beats Georgia you cannot leave them out. They value conference championships.
tell that to 2016 Penn State.
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1199 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:36 pm to
LSU’s resume isn’t good. Tennessee is imploding, and the Ole Miss win has lost its luster. Plus losing to FSU and struggling with B tier teams? They’d need divine intervention to get in even if they sneak by Georgia.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40223 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:58 pm to
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One of Ohio State/Michigan drops with a L this weekend. With a W on Saturday that should put LSU at worst at 4-5 heading into the SECCG.


It depends on the score. If it’s a close battle they may keep one of them in the top 4
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14922 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Except when they don't.


I would hope they understand that the SEC Championship is several orders of magnitude more difficult to win - sometimes moreso than the Natty.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47820 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:00 pm to
Every thought that pops into your head.
Don’t post it…
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35874 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:03 pm to
Lot of wishing and hoping and trying to convince yourselves going on in here.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1587 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:05 pm to
How much wishing and hoping did you do the previous 41 years?
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:06 pm to
you a little worrying bitch huh?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43178 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Come on man, it’s very simple, LSU beats Georgia, they’re both in, LSU at 3, Georgia at 4. Michigan/Ohio State winner and TCU.

I've spent less than five minutes thinking on this, but this is pretty obvious the most logical outcome - not worth the effort evaluating all the alternatives.
Posted by slowmoe
Member since Mar 2022
600 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 6:20 pm to
Why are you people that say LSU is a lock if they win out?
IF!!! they do. They will be the weakest team in there and look like Oklahoma when Oklahoma gets in.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:58 pm to
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You're right. And it is also the only time a 2 loss conference champion was in position to be selected. The committee chose instead for a 1 loss team that didn't even play in the conference championship game.


There have been plenty of 2-loss champions, so I’m not quite sure what you mean by the only time. If you look at the selections, it’s clear that both W-L record and conference championships have weight. 1-loss non-champs have made the CFP ahead of 2-loss champions, but never ahead of 1-loss champions. In 2014 Ohio St was given preference over TCU because they had a CCG. In 2015 conference champ Michigan St got in over non-champ Ohio St. 1-loss A&M and 1-loss ND were passed over the last two seasons as non-champs. There’s never been a circumstance exactly like what would happen if LSU beats Georgia in the SECCG to know for sure which would carry the greater weight in this case.
Posted by BDoubleEZ
Burleson, TX
Member since Sep 2021
666 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
The committee pretty much told LSU last night with the #5 ranking that they're in if they win out. If it were that questionable, they would've jumped USC to #5.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
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They will be the weakest team in there and look like Oklahoma when Oklahoma gets in.


IF they beat Georgia in the SECCG, they are most definitely NOT a weak team and are certainly capable of beating anyone. Your argument really is that LSU isn’t strong enough to beat Georgia.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:04 pm to
Penn State got jobbed because the focus groups said more eyes would be on tOSU. That’s it.
Posted by The Real Drooby
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
1454 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:06 pm to
SEC championships
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5335 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:10 pm to
UGA only significant win is over Tenn.
no contest.
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