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It's time to admit that instant replay is a failed experiment
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:54 am
When they reintroduced instant replay to college football, it was supposed to make the sport cleaner by allowing bad calls to be corrected rather than allowing them to stand and affect the outcomes of games. Does anyone think that goal has been achieved? For every bad call replay does correct, it seems there are four more that they still end up getting wrong after stopping the game and staring at a little tv screen for ten minutes. What is replay actually accomplishing other than wasting everyone's time and lengthening games?
It's clear that the existence of replay has contributed to the progressive decline of officiating quality in the sport. Without replay, I would imagine refs were told to keep their flags in their pockets unless they were sure a foul had actually been committed. Now they are told, "If you think you see something call it, and if it's a bad call we'll just let replay fix it." The problem is that we are dealing with two different standards here: the initial call, for which the standard is, "Call it if you think you see it," and the replay standard, which is, "Irrefutable video evidence must exist to overturn the call on the field." So we get refs making borderline or bad calls with the idea that replay will fix them, but then we look at the replay and we can't see what's going on because someone was in the way or the camera angle wasn't right or the replay ref decides the video evidence may be 99.9% clear that the call was bad but that still doesn't meet the "irrefutable" standard, and the bad call is allowed to stand. What have we accomplished? What is the point?
I'm tired of seeing games interrupted 5+ times so I can watch a pack of yokels in stripey shirts stand around scratching their asses while one of them stares at a tiny TV. At this point I'm good with just accepting the calls on the field in the interest of moving things along. They're still fricking up calls that affect the outcomes of games, so why bother wasting all that time?
It's clear that the existence of replay has contributed to the progressive decline of officiating quality in the sport. Without replay, I would imagine refs were told to keep their flags in their pockets unless they were sure a foul had actually been committed. Now they are told, "If you think you see something call it, and if it's a bad call we'll just let replay fix it." The problem is that we are dealing with two different standards here: the initial call, for which the standard is, "Call it if you think you see it," and the replay standard, which is, "Irrefutable video evidence must exist to overturn the call on the field." So we get refs making borderline or bad calls with the idea that replay will fix them, but then we look at the replay and we can't see what's going on because someone was in the way or the camera angle wasn't right or the replay ref decides the video evidence may be 99.9% clear that the call was bad but that still doesn't meet the "irrefutable" standard, and the bad call is allowed to stand. What have we accomplished? What is the point?
I'm tired of seeing games interrupted 5+ times so I can watch a pack of yokels in stripey shirts stand around scratching their asses while one of them stares at a tiny TV. At this point I'm good with just accepting the calls on the field in the interest of moving things along. They're still fricking up calls that affect the outcomes of games, so why bother wasting all that time?
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:58 am to TheTideMustRoll
I think it still does more good than harm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:02 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Does more good. Colorado's fifth down
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:04 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Instant replay is fine. Corrupt officiating is not.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:08 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Now they are told, "If you think you see something call it, and if it's a bad call we'll just let replay fix it." The problem is that we are dealing with two different standards here: the initial call, for which the standard is, "Call it if you think you see it," and the replay standard, which is, "Irrefutable video evidence must exist to overturn the call on the field." So we get refs making borderline or bad calls with the idea that replay will fix them, but then we look at the replay and we can't see what's going on because someone was in the way or the camera angle wasn't right or the replay ref decides the video evidence may be 99.9% clear that the call was bad but that still doesn't meet the "irrefutable" standard, and the bad call is allowed to stand.
I agree with this 100%. It seems to happen a ton with pass/fumble calls.
That said, replay has gotten rid of some of the horrible calls that we used to see in the 80s and 90s.
The proliferation of sports gambling will only make replay more invasive on the games. Financial markets are build on trust, so sports books don’t want any appearance of a rigged outcome.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:29 pm to TheTideMustRoll
An Alabama fan complaint about replays??
It’s probably negatively affected Bama 1 in every 300 reviews.
It’s probably negatively affected Bama 1 in every 300 reviews.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:53 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Your mind is just gravitating towards the annoying/poor use of instant replay. There have been many, many occurrences where an obvious bad call on the field was overturned in 10 seconds on replay. It's still a net positive even though there is significant room for improvement from a timing standpoint
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:00 pm to TheTideMustRoll
It's good 90% of the time. How they keep missing fumbles against Auburn I will never know. 3 years straight. Also, LSU was a full yard and a half short.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:03 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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It's time to admit that instant replay is a failed experiment
time to admit you dont remember the good ole days of 5th downs, clock not running etc
now i do think it has gotten a little out of hand with going back and looking at each play 100 times and looking for 1/16" to effect the game.
personally just think they need to go to nfl rules. all scoring plays reviewed. all plays under 2 min reviewed. coaches get 2 challenges per game.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:18 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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What is replay actually accomplishing other than wasting everyone's time and lengthening games?
Advertisers love it, I promise you that.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:33 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Don't blame instant replay for officials being worse.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:43 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Dumbasses on message boards who don't know how to read a rulebook make officiating seem worse than it actually is.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:23 pm to TheTideMustRoll
I would trade all the proper corrections to eliminate the wasted time and disruption. This applies to all sports.
In football, you always had the momentary ‘no flags’ moment after a big play. Now, on top of that, you need to wait and watch replays to confirm the big play will stand. It’s just not as much fun, IMO.
In football, you always had the momentary ‘no flags’ moment after a big play. Now, on top of that, you need to wait and watch replays to confirm the big play will stand. It’s just not as much fun, IMO.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:05 pm to TheTideMustRoll
It always has been from the first time it was introduced. There’s always been skepticism with officials integrity but the greatest deniability was that they can simply miss calls which is true. Now with replay and the infinite subjective interpretations on overlapping rules the games have no integrity at all anymore.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:41 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:48 pm to TheTideMustRoll
I disagree with your major complaints.
it works.
sometimes it takes too long.
1 in 20 is wrong.
before, 6 or 7 out of 20 were wrong.
its better. much.
it works.
sometimes it takes too long.
1 in 20 is wrong.
before, 6 or 7 out of 20 were wrong.
its better. much.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:14 pm to TheTideMustRoll
I fail to see how - because it adds a little bit of time to the game - it is a "failed experiment".
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:17 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Nah, replay hasn't failed at all.
What has "failed" is one's inability to realize what they are watching is oftentimes intentionally "altered" to either create drama, or just flat out benefit one team. PERIOD.
There are so many examples of replay being bastardized in order to keep whatever narrative for that game going, yet people are STILL in denial that many of these games are tilted.
The NFL and the SEC, the two most watched football products, are the most blatant when it comes to flaunting this. The NFL is basically wresting now, with the SEC not far behind.
I am NOT a Saints fan, but the game they played overseas a few weeks back against MIN was clearly rigged. Go ahead and try to explain to some bloke the rules of the game while that garbage was going on. You literally could not give a valid explanation without saying the refs were blatantly favoring MN.
Don't even get me started on the SEC. They have been rubbing their favoritism in our faces for years, instant replay be damned.
What has "failed" is one's inability to realize what they are watching is oftentimes intentionally "altered" to either create drama, or just flat out benefit one team. PERIOD.
There are so many examples of replay being bastardized in order to keep whatever narrative for that game going, yet people are STILL in denial that many of these games are tilted.
The NFL and the SEC, the two most watched football products, are the most blatant when it comes to flaunting this. The NFL is basically wresting now, with the SEC not far behind.
I am NOT a Saints fan, but the game they played overseas a few weeks back against MIN was clearly rigged. Go ahead and try to explain to some bloke the rules of the game while that garbage was going on. You literally could not give a valid explanation without saying the refs were blatantly favoring MN.
Don't even get me started on the SEC. They have been rubbing their favoritism in our faces for years, instant replay be damned.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:32 pm to TheTideMustRoll
You want some sort of replay system that has 100% benefits and zero drawbacks. There is no such thing. That doesn't mean they need to do away with it.
They do end up reversing a lot of bad calls. And officiating quality has never been that good so I don't know what you mean by progressive decline. Do you have some data to back up that claim?
They do end up reversing a lot of bad calls. And officiating quality has never been that good so I don't know what you mean by progressive decline. Do you have some data to back up that claim?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:55 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Now they are told, "If you think you see something call it, and if it's a bad call we'll just let replay fix it."
Actually agree with this 100%. Which is funny because you need indisputable evidence to overturn a bad call, so if you don’t have a good camera angle, bad calls must stand by the letter of the rule
College just needs to adopt NFL rules. This any play is reviewable by the booth the entire game is ridiculous. Give coaches 2 reviews and under 2 minute the booth takes over.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 4:57 pm
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