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Jameis Winston Hate
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:14 am
Jameis has not been very good this year.
However, last year with Sean Payton the Saints was 5-2 and Jameis threw 14 Tds - 2 Ints. The Saints were playoff bound and completely fell apart after his injury.
Maybe alot of Jameis issues has to do with the offensive play calling and OL play.
I would like for Andy Dalton to play this weekend to truly determine, if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael. If Andy Dalton can play well, he should could continue to start.
Carmichael has not really called plays since 2012. I think he may be the problem. We should have moved completely away from the Payton offensive regime.
However, last year with Sean Payton the Saints was 5-2 and Jameis threw 14 Tds - 2 Ints. The Saints were playoff bound and completely fell apart after his injury.
Maybe alot of Jameis issues has to do with the offensive play calling and OL play.
I would like for Andy Dalton to play this weekend to truly determine, if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael. If Andy Dalton can play well, he should could continue to start.
Carmichael has not really called plays since 2012. I think he may be the problem. We should have moved completely away from the Payton offensive regime.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:15 am to LaTexSaint
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I would like for Andy Dalton to play this weekend to truly determine, if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael.
Kinda where I am at.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:16 am to LaTexSaint
Winston has never been a good QB. Even last year at 5-2, he wasn’t very impressive, there was nothing that stuck out about him. And even if there was, he’s back to being same old Jameis.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:21 am to LaTexSaint
I think interior oline and RBs are as big as issue as Winston, maybe bigger
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:30 am to LaTexSaint
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However, last year with Sean Payton the Saints was 5-2 and Jameis threw 14 Tds - 2 Ints. The Saints were playoff bound and completely fell apart after his injury.
He was managing the offense last year, but Payton had handcuffs on him the entire time. That 14/2 looks great until you dig into it. 9 of those TDs came in two games, and one of those he had 5 TDs on 20 passes with 148 yards passing. He was averaging 25 passes per game.
38 attempts per game is a recipie for disaster with a QB who has a penchant for turnovers.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:31 am to LaTexSaint
He sucks. Shows moments of athleticism but not a leader not going to win consistently.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:44 am to LaTexSaint
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if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael
Million dollar question. Is Carmichael holding back the offense because of Winston and that's why it look like shite for 3 1/2 qtrs, or is Winston being held back for 3 1/2 Qtrs because Carmichael is a shitty game manager? Or both?
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:47 am to LaTexSaint
I don't hate the guy, (well I did when he was on the Bucs) but we have to try something. I would have never thought our offensive production would drop off like it has.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:19 am to LaTexSaint
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would like for Andy Dalton to play this weekend to truly determine, if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael. If Andy Dalton can play well, he should could continue to start.
It's both man.
Jameis has missed throws and reads.
Carmichael has called a shitty game. The o line hasn't been a top tier line.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:52 am to LaTexSaint
It’s not so much hate as it is HIS BACK IS BROKEN IN FOUR PLACES. 100% Dalton has to be better than crippled Jameis.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:09 pm to LaTexSaint
Winston makes some mistakes but I put 80% of the blame on the coaching staff. We ran 6 times on 2nd and 10 last game. I believe we had 8 total 2nd and 10. And every single time we set ourselves up with third and long.
This team has the players to air it out all game. But the offense has no identity or rhythm. For example, against Tampa at times we looked like we wanted to win a 6-3 game with the playcalling on offense. Then we also threw 8 or 9 deep bombs which doesn’t match the way they called most of the game.
I’d play Dalton for sure this week especially since Winston isn’t practicing. But if the coaching staff doesn’t figure this out it won’t matter who is at QB
This team has the players to air it out all game. But the offense has no identity or rhythm. For example, against Tampa at times we looked like we wanted to win a 6-3 game with the playcalling on offense. Then we also threw 8 or 9 deep bombs which doesn’t match the way they called most of the game.
I’d play Dalton for sure this week especially since Winston isn’t practicing. But if the coaching staff doesn’t figure this out it won’t matter who is at QB
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:47 pm to LaTexSaint
Playcalling has been subpar for sure. Winston has all the physical tools, but cannot grasp the mental game where he needs to be. He is who we thought he was
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:06 pm to LaTexSaint
Yep.
Can’t fix the problem until you know what the problem is.
If you try then your just a parts changer. And that’s expensive and not efficient.
Can’t fix the problem until you know what the problem is.
If you try then your just a parts changer. And that’s expensive and not efficient.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:54 pm to LaTexSaint
I don't know how much of it is playing hurt.
He was nowhere near as bad through three games last year, and he has better receivers now.
He was nowhere near as bad through three games last year, and he has better receivers now.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:15 pm to LaTexSaint
I say let Winston heal and let Dalton do his job, back up QB. If Dalton steals the job so be it. If he stinks it up also then we know what to do next year. This year isn't over, but putting a hurt QB out there week in and week out and seeing it just isn't working doesn't make sense.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:12 pm to LaTexSaint
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Jameis threw 14 Tds - 2 Ints.
Fool's gold.
Two hyper-efficient games against GB and WAS where he threw 9 TD (a few which were extreme luck and should have been picked) on 29 completions and he still averaged less than 200 yards a game. Dog shite 59% completion percentage. Saints were winning last year in spite of Jameis.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:57 pm to LaTexSaint
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I would like for Andy Dalton to play this weekend to truly determine, if Jameis is truly the problem or is it Carmichael. If Andy Dalton can play well, he should could continue to start.
In
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:49 pm to LaTexSaint
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However, last year
Stopped reading.
Of my aunt had balls shed be my uncle!
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:01 pm to LaTexSaint
There’s nothing in your post about hate. I’m disappointed. I was hoping for more discussions of racism. Instead I have to read boring football analysis.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:13 pm to LaTexSaint
I don't think it is personal hate for Jameis himself its more frustration because everyone knows what his potential is.
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