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re: 4th Q TD to go ahead 17-16 - supposed to be a pass to Boutte
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:30 pm to Hurricane2020
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:30 pm to Hurricane2020
Daniel's pre-snap awareness is not good! Heck of an athlete who has a pretty good arm but needs to learn to read defenses and know what his progressions will be before the snap.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:31 pm to wadewilson
quote:Cool. Let's give him six more weeks to develop with the WR.
Cool. Let's revisit this one at the end of October.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:31 pm to UpToPar
The great thing about the Rant is people can read and decide who knows and who pretends.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:33 pm to wadewilson
quote:
Cool. Let's revisit this one at the end of October.
What happens at the end of October?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:34 pm to whitefoot
quote:contact and an actual pick being set are 2 different things tho, and he's setting an actual pick on the guy trailing Boutte like bball.
The design of the play was for Jenkins to contact the defender and set the pick. Contact is allowed within a yard of the line. This was a well executed pick play. Jenkins (I kept saying Nabers earlier, but it was Jenkins) was never doing anything on that play but setting the pick.
did some rule change that made this legal?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:35 pm to Nix to Twillie
Or another Boutte dropped pass!
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:36 pm to whitefoot
quote:
What happens at the end of October?
We'll find out how spry he still is after 4 straight SEC games.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:37 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:
The play design and rub worked to perfection. Despite the ultimate success of the play, that's a decision/throw JD needs to make if LSU is going to be successful as we play tougher opponents. None of this is nitpicking or "hating" JD. He clearly gives us the best chance to win, but these are the things he needs to improve on for the team to get better. Kelly said this AM that JD still needs to work on his reads and progressions.
The coaches see this. Most fans see this. Denying it doesn't make it go away.
Very well said. I defend Daniels a lot on this board, but on this play he should have thrown it. The result should have been the same and he'd have taken 2 less hits. We're really going to need this guy to hold up for the entire season, because like you said, he clearly gives us the best chance to win.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:43 pm to The Egg
quote:
contact and an actual pick being set are 2 different things tho, and he's setting an actual pick on the guy trailing Boutte like bball.
did some rule change that made this legal?
This doesn't matter. Beyond a yard, any contact needs to be incidental. Within a yard of the line of scrimmage, it can be any contact. Also, as long as the contact is initiated within a yard the contact can be maintained up to 3 yards from the LOS.
NCAA 2021 Rulebook (see page 85)
quote:
Offensive pass interference is contact by a Team A player beyond the
neutral zone that interferes with a Team B player during a legal forward
pass play in which the forward pass crosses the neutral zone. It is the
responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents. It is not
offensive pass interference:
quote:
When, after the snap, a Team A ineligible player immediately charges
and contacts an opponent at a point not more than one yard beyond
the neutral zone and maintains the contact for no more than three
yards beyond the neutral zone
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:52 pm to Jabontik
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This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:38 pm to BayouCowboy
No one has said he doesn't need to work on his reads.... you can literally say that about every quarterback and be correct...the question, if you try to follow the thread... was about a specific play, where he failed to throw it to a receiver who was "wide open".
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:49 pm to TooSober
quote:
No one has said he doesn't need to work on his reads.... you can literally say that about every quarterback and be correct...the question, if you try to follow the thread... was about a specific play, where he failed to throw it to a receiver who was "wide open".
I watched the play live and on replay as well as the stills provided. The play design worked and despite a positive outcome it was the wrong decision by the QB. He had to fight through tacklers to get to the end zone vs throwing to a WR that was running to space. He has to work on throwing receivers open and timing routes. Most of JD's throws are to the receiver vs to where the route takes them. I think he's capable, but he has to trust the receiver and his own timing.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:13 pm to BeeFense5
Exactly these are the most ignorant fans
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:36 pm to Jabontik
I would have called a pick on the play to Boutte
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:42 pm to Jabontik
Watch the route again. 7 was jogging. He was not open.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:45 pm to Flightnclouds
Boutte needs to be concerned about winning not about Boutte
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:47 pm to wadewilson
quote:And no way he grows as a passer during that time.
We'll find out how spry he still is after 4 straight SEC games.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:53 pm to timlan2057
He's better than BH was as DT QB but not by much.
He is less of a risk than Nuss though
He is less of a risk than Nuss though
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:56 pm to Jabontik
The initial start of the play looked like Boutte started moving to the right and may have been open for a second. But, he disappears off the screen and couldn't really tell if he was really open. Is there another angle?
On the other hand, we saw what JD saw...open road to score and he did (rather than to throw considering he did misfire a few times before.) Isn't that also part of the decision making process to take the easy TD!
If Boutte was pissed that we score, sorry, he's not a true team player. And, somehow I don't see him as one. Maybe I'll change my mind in the weeks to come.
On the other hand, we saw what JD saw...open road to score and he did (rather than to throw considering he did misfire a few times before.) Isn't that also part of the decision making process to take the easy TD!
If Boutte was pissed that we score, sorry, he's not a true team player. And, somehow I don't see him as one. Maybe I'll change my mind in the weeks to come.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 9/19/22 at 5:00 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:This
By the time Boutte had come open Daniels had already taken off. Yes he was open but Daniels was committed to the run at that point.
Daniels tucks and runs way too early way too often, but I think on that play Boutte was covered and he went to his next read at the right time.
But then if I'm not mistaken the dude guarding Boutte tripped up a bit and he did become open, and a pass floated out towards the sideline a couple of yards deep in the endzone would have been an easy TD, though not the easiest of passes.
But again, I think he looked off of Boutte at the right time on that play.
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