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re: Whats tOB’s thoughts on a F-250 7.3 gasser?

Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:52 pm to
With 4.30 gears and the 6r100 trans it REALLY shines. All around fantastic drivetrain for real normal 3/4 ton truck use.

A bunch of these 3/4 tons you see driving around are either overloaded hauling 38' 5th wheel toy haulers or just about never pull anything. In reality, diesel 3/4 tons make very little to no practical sense. If you NEED a diesel, you likely NEED a dually. If you need a 3/4 ton, but don't need a 1 ton, you're likely far better served with a gasser than a diesel.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10116 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:58 pm to
I feel 1,000% attacked.

My 18’ aluminum boat needs a 6.7 with 880lbs of tq to get us to Fred’s Saturday mornings.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16632 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:04 pm to
All of what Downshift said and also the 7.3L is a very heavily built up engine designed for use as a hauler from the get go. CGI block, heavily reinforced, forged crank, high volume/pressure oil pump and oil cooler. It also has tons of power left on the table if anyone decided 430/475 wasn't enough, every bit as responsive to bolt-on parts and tuning as the LS engines.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:17 pm to
Some people just like pissing away mountains of money.

You could just buy a gasser and get the 6.7 door badge and exhaust tips and still get the aftermarket rims and 37's. You could still dick flex on the poors and spend more on your wife's ykon Denali.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:53 pm to
I hear good things on the 7.3. Gas engines these day are on par with diesels 15-20 years ago….which at that power output, is about the niche for 3/4 ton trucks. Anything bigger you’ll need to step up.

I have the 6.2 gasser in 3/4 ton for the farm, love it. That 3,000+lbs payload capacity is hard to beat in a 2500.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5767 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:11 am to
This has come up a bunch lately I can only share my observations...

I needed a way to pull a gooseneck to move my two larger tractors around so I upgraded to a GMC 2500 Diesel last year. I absolutely love the truck, it's the first one I have had in a while I truly love. I can pull a 105 HP tractor and batwing on my gooseneck and it doesn't miss a beat on hills and it stops it very well. The power between it and anything else I have driven previous (which is granted limited in the bigger trucks) is amazing. If my truck gave up the ghost today I would go right back and get another diesel I have enjoyed it's capabilities, it's been quite the eye opener.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5979 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:26 am to
I’m in the same boat as Hammer. I had a 14 Chevy 2500 with the 6.0 gas. I did not enjoy the truck at all. The constant down shifting and revving up (I know that’s where the power is) got old.
I traded it on a 17 F250 with the 6.7
It’s been a great truck and handles my tractor , 5th wheel , and a small bulldozer without any issues . I’ll give this one to my 13 yr old in a couple years and likely buy a dually when we upgrade to a slightly larger dozer. I don’t see me going back to a gas truck for any heavy towing.
Posted by 44Bogger
Beauregard
Member since May 2014
161 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:42 am to
I ordered a 2020 CCSB 7.3 XLT with 4.30's. No suspension mods, tires are 1" taller than stock. No engine mods other than Magnaflow exhaust.

Love this truck more than any I have ever had before.

I'm in 3 different trucks weekly. I drive an old Toyota to work and while on the clock I drive a leveled 2019 deleted/high-tuned 6.7 CCSB. Yea, the deleted 6.7 is a race car on 35" mud tires but I wouldn't spend my own money on it.

Back to my personal 7.3. Half the miles on it are with a trailer attached. That could be 3k to 27k lbs. Running mileage from purchase is 12 mpg. On an open highway trip unloaded it gets 17 mpg.

IMHO if you aren't "rich", and the truck will not constantly be pulling over 15k lbs, the diesels aren't worth it these days.
Especially for someone that can't work on new diesels and lives in flat lands like us.

The 2020 on 6.7's with 10 speeds have had 2 different transmission recalls. Luckily for me, none of the 7.3 transmissions have had one. If you look at a used 10 speed with a 6.7, do your research.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19625 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:00 am to
The 6.0 is a fabulously reliable engine but definitely won't win any power awards. The new 6.6 and the Ford 7.3 are big improvements in the power and pulling aspects.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58667 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:04 am to
quote:

does not take much tongue weight to overload a 3/4 ton diesel.
Exactly. The pin weight is around 2400# on the 5th wheel I’m eyeing.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2022
4770 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:21 am to
there is only one Ford 7.3 and it aint a gasser
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:27 am to
Most people don't think about payload capacity at all, and it is poo garbage on any 3/4 ton diesel.

If you're bent on a diesel get a 1 ton srw at minimum, and a dually is WAYYYY better. Otherwise, get a gasser. Its a better package.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58667 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:33 am to
If my numbers are right, the payload on a crew cab 250 with 7.3 is 3500#. That’ll leave me over 1000# for cargo, I think that’ll be plenty.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:46 am to
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there is only one Ford 7.3 and it aint a gasser
You mean International, baw.
Posted by 44Bogger
Beauregard
Member since May 2014
161 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:54 am to
quote:

If my numbers are right, the payload on a crew cab 250 with 7.3 is 3500#. That’ll leave me over 1000# for cargo, I think that’ll be plenty.


Don't listen to the weight police.

You will be fine. Those numbers don't mean much. If you order a F250 with max load springs it will have a higher "number" than a F350 with a derate.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2022
4770 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:00 am to
quote:

You mean International, baw.

ok fair.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Don't listen to the weight police.


quote:

Those numbers don't mean much


Do you really want someone to wreck an overloaded truck in 2022 in America???? Is your name Gordon McKernon?

A regular 3/4 ton CAN haul 50k with 5k lbs of tongue weight, but that doesn't mean anyone should. Making what you already have work is one thing, but to go out and buy something that might end up overloaded is just stupid.

If you need a 3/4 ton get a gas, and if you need a 1 ton get a diesel dually. This is not complicated.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2015 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:53 pm to
07 Dodge 6.7 here and will be updating in ~2 year range. Does the new 7.3 and tranny combo do well holding speed coming off mountain passes/ grades?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:05 pm to
holding speed coming off mountain passes/ grades?

This is where diesels REALLY shine. The 6.7 cummins can provide over 250 braking horsepower and no gas engine will ever be able to come near that.

That said, odds are the 7.3 does better than any other gas engine. With a gasser, displacement = engine braking. Just don't expect diesel performance from it.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2015 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:06 am to
Thanks, I can't put a price tag on that safety feature of towing back from the mountains. I don't think the wife likes hearing the brake talk it's way down a 6+ winding grade for miles but it's music to my ears.
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