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Educate me on leveling lift kits

Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:15 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10519 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:15 pm
I was kicking around the idea of putting a rough country 3” leveling lift kit on my Tundra. Then I started reading about how it can have a big increase on the wear/strain of ball joints, etc. Definitely don’t feel like dealing with that crap. Is that the case for 3” or is this more about bigger lifts?
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:17 pm to
Find a Toyota specific forum and see what they are running. Cognito is best for GMs. Fox, BDS, Icon, Carli, and a few others are great for Ford. No clue about Yota. Do not just get a spacer puck. Spend the money and get something good.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25191 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:17 pm to
Bilstein 5100

If you want to do that just get these.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2679 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:39 pm to
3” is to big for a tundra. I put a 2” on mine. Got 230k plus miles on my 14 with no issues before trading it in.

You do need to bring it to a tire place so they can get everything back aligned after you do it or you will wear the front tires quick
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 7:40 pm
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1592 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:50 pm to
After talking to a mechanic whom I really trusted, I did a 2.5” leveling kit on my GMC Sierra. Put 33” bf goodrich tires. He said he’s never seen faster wear as long as the truck isn’t lifted super high with big heavy tires. Only have 10k miles on the lift and tires so far but no issues.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3191 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:21 pm to
I would go with h a factory approved TRD level only. And then get a good alignment. Trucks are built with the idea of leveling for 4 wheel drive applications.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18229 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:33 pm to
I put a 2 or 3" kit on my Sierra (can't remember specifically). No issues whatsoever.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28670 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:09 pm to
There are a lot of different types of kits.

Most will change your factory wheel/suspension geometry. You can get kits that will correct it to a proper geometry post-lift.

The truth is, you need to do a good bit of homework and learn it well enough to do it yourself (even if you don't do it). Join a TRD or tundra forum. Have a few people interact and point you in the correct path.

In the end, even with a perfect kit, bigger lift means bigger tires and wheels usually. Bigger = some parts wearing and tearing sooner than they would have. But that's part of car and truck ownership anyway.

Repairs happen.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Definitely don’t feel like dealing with that crap.


IMO, you shouldn't do it. While you may not keep the truck long enough to realize it, bigger tires are harder on the whole truck. Higher offset rims combined with lift kits are what REALLY tears up front end stuff. Steeper angles on all the joints wears them out quicker. Bigger tires hurt fuel mileage and towing performance and increase wear and tear on all of the rotating parts.

I despise any kind of lift kit on a truck these days that isn't a play toy.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8842 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:19 am to
For Fords atleast, anything over 2.5" is pushing it, and even with a 2.5" cheap style spacer kit the cv and joint angles up front are somewhat scary looking. Granted I've had one on a truck for a long time and never had issues, as well as knowing tons of people with the same but 2" is probably the sweet spot.

Not sure about Toyota specifically, but depends on what you want to spend, as there are leveling kits that can cost as much as a full lift. In my experience if you have larger tires or want them, and plan on leveling it, a 4" lift kit is the better option as it will bring your truck back to stock angles and relieve that strain on the angles. Tundras are fairly large to begin with though, but I know an F150 with 35's with a 2.5" level parked next to an f150 with 35's and a 4" lift is nearly the same exact height. Where the 4' lift version has stock angles for the tires. Leveling kit just pushed it up, where lift drops the parts down.

ETA: Finding a Tundra forum Is probably the best bet for getting knowledgable insight. I will add that many of the lift kit manufacturers (not necessarily bad or the "cheap ones") basically use the same size parts for the 4" and 6" lift, so the 6" is gonna end up with angles basically as if it had a 2" level. FWIW. An alignment after any sort of suspension work is absolutely NECESSARY though, and if you do get a level or lift make sure to get it aligned every other oil change or third one. If you get a lift definitely make sure they retorque all the bolts and parts to spec every 5k miles or so.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 7:28 am
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1074 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:46 am to
For a level - don't go above a 2" and don't use the cheap spacers. Go with something like the 5100s or a loaded strut. My ride and handling improved a ton when I replaced those cheap spacers and loaded struts.
Posted by RustedToyota
USA
Member since Jan 2021
89 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:14 am to
On very late model Tundras with Adaptive Cruise Control it can change what the sensors see; you could have cruise problems. The Toyota dealer can't fix it after lift kit. Call the Toyota dealer for more info.
Posted by DingleBarry
Member since Aug 2021
317 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:18 pm to
I have a 3" toytech with decker leaf and add a leaf on my Tacoma. guys at Southernstyle Offroad in BR did it and im 40k in with no issues. Def get aligned after and maybe upgrade the upperCA's for more adjustability. went with Dobinson on those for more camber.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3130 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:41 pm to
you need a 2 1/2 ready lift spacer level. its cheap and solid
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1913 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:36 pm to
2” level with bilstein 5100 or similar with stock wheels but taller tires won’t hurt anything on a Ford. Not sure about Toyota or piece of crap GM.

Man up and do your thing. Ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, and CV axles are wear items anyway. So what if they last 170k miles rather than 180k miles.
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