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Air Products looking to store carbon dioxide under Lake Maurepas

Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21042 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:17 am
LIVINGSTON PARISH- Starting in October, surveyors will take a look at what is underneath Lake Maurepas using sound waves similar to sonar.

"You're setting off little tiny seismic charges that send vibrations down to the earth and you're reading what comes back to see what sort of layers you have," Patrick Courreges with the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources, said.

The plan is to create a 3D map as deep as two miles under the lake to find the safest places to store carbon dioxide, rather than letting it escape into the atmosphere.

"You're looking for layers that protect upward movement from that area," Courreges said

It's an effort by Air Products and Chemicals Incorporated to lower greenhouse gas emissions.
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Projects like this one that make all of that possible," Governor John Bel Edwards said during a previous press conference.
Officials say this process is the future of energy and there's nothing to worry about by storing carbon dioxide under the lake. The survey will end in the spring.
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Meanwhile there are some concerns. The Livingston Parish council will introduce an ordinance on Thursday meant to at least pause issuing new permits so members can learn more about the process. "We think it's more safe in the ground than the air, but what does it do to our drinking water? Is there potential for leaks? What is the plan if there is a disaster? We just haven't been able to get that information for our people asking for it," Randy Delatte, Livingston Parish Councilman district 8 said.
Sportsman’s. Paradise.. right?
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13501 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:23 am to
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what does it do to our drinking water?


You get carbonated water straight out of the tap? Nice!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71794 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:23 am to
No biggie. What’s the worst that could happen? Oh wait, I know….

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A limnic eruption, also known as a lake overturn, is a very rare type of natural disaster in which dissolved carbon dioxide (CO2) suddenly erupts from deep lake waters, forming a gas cloud capable of suffocating wildlife, livestock, and humans. A limnic eruption may also cause a tsunami or seiche[citation needed] as the rising CO2 displaces water. Scientists believe earthquakes, volcanic activity, and other explosive events can serve as triggers for limnic eruptions. Lakes in which such activity occurs are referred to as limnically active lakes or exploding lakes.

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Posted by Pledge
Professional Baw
Member since Sep 2015
1203 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:25 am to
I feel like storing CO2 under a lake could be bad for the lake's wildlife, but what do I know.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23485 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:27 am to
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Officials say this process is the future of energy and there's nothing to worry about

When "officials" start saying "there's nothing to worry about" you can almost bet the farm that you should worry, or hold onto your wallet.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32625 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:27 am to
Concentrated CO2 underground eventually solidifies, so it won’t effect drinking water or the environment long term

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To store CO2, it's usually compressed into a liquid form or bonded with water, and then injected deep underground. There, it interacts with basalt rock and solidifies into a carbonate mineral, reportedly in as little as two years.


A number of companies are looking at this in LA in different places
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:28 am to
So when the storage facility has a leak, does it’s location under the lake make it a giant wet fart?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71794 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:28 am to
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I feel like storing CO2 under a lake could be bad for the lake's wildlife, but what do I know.


Not just the wildlife in the lake, but all life, including humans, around the lake. See my first post right above yours. This type of thing has wiped out entire African villages in the past.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:28 am to
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When "officials" start saying "there's nothing to worry about" you can almost bet the farm that you should worry, or hold onto your wallet.


Usually the case.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82807 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:31 am to
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Concentrated CO2 underground eventually solidifies, so it won’t effect drinking water or the environment long term


it’ll just solidify on it’s own? What does a chunk of solidified CO2 look like?
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21042 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:31 am to
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Air Products plans to drill wells across Livingston, St. James, St. John the Baptist, Cameron, Tangipahoa parishes spanning 122,455 acres. The state land would include the Maurepas Swamp Wildlife Management Area, Lake Maurepas and Sabine Lake. More than 5 million tons per year of carbon dioxide would be stored permanently underground roughly a mile beneath the surface.
Damn. Yea I think wildlife and fishing might be affected
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:31 am to
That’s for lakes with extremely high dissolved co2 in the water. Usually found around volcanoes with lakes on top of gaseous vents. The temperature differentials in water form layers that do not mix so the deeper water will be over saturated with the volcanic gasses. Then an earth quake hits and it’s like shaking up a can of Coke with gas erupting causing the cloud.

I think one of these recently (last 10 years or so) occurred in like Nicaragua.

This co2 would be piped into the ground. My thought is the state is looking for storage fees since they own the lake bottom.

This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 8:33 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71112 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:31 am to
Uh oh....

We've spent over a century pumping oil and water and other shite out of the ground. Now, we're gonna pump carbon dioxide into the ground. How long until the flat Earth floats away into the abyss?
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:34 am to
Why don't they just build a big a gigantic grow facility and pump the CO2 in there. Extra CO2 allows plants to take in extra humidity and heat and invigorates the growth. It's like injecting NOS in cars. Except it's for plants. Air products be dumb
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24355 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:34 am to
Gonna be Lake Peigneur pt 2.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45162 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:35 am to
Also, they don't own Lake Maurepas, so there's that. It is pretty arrogant to make plans, and start doing seismic tests on somebody else's property.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73093 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:37 am to
Yeah I was thinking about that lake in Africa I think that just all of a sudden killed an entire town with C0 discharge.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32625 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:37 am to

This is a pretty good example of how far down this stuff goes, and what it looks like once it binds with an agent
Posted by ItSawGood
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
341 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:38 am to
Companies are also contacting large land owners as well. I'd imagine there will be a lot of legal hurdles as this practice expands. Must be tough distinguishing topical land boundaries when filling massive chambers underground with CO2 - would be easy mailbox money, though.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12564 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:38 am to
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What does a chunk of solidified CO2 look like?

It looks like limestone.
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