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re: Air Products looking to store carbon dioxide under Lake Maurepas
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:54 am to White Bear
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:54 am to White Bear
Don’t we have a CO2 shortage right now because of the contamination at the facility in Mississippi? For now why aren’t they capturing it and selling it?
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:55 am to ragincajun03
Finally, at the bottom of the second page, someone gets it. There’s as much BS disinformation in the rest of this thread as a Peej storm forecast. If the fish and wildlife are bothered by wells, someone need to tell the hordes of fish that gather around every single nearshore and offshore oil platform. And if you think there aren’t already pipelines carrying large amount of CO2 around the state, you’re not paying attention. The same geology that makes Louisiana a leader in O&G production makes it possible to be a leader in CCS. If anyone thinks this is all a bad idea, write your Congressional delegation and tell them to get EPA off the throats of the manufacturing industry to reduce GHG.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:55 am to BowDownToLSU
If it’s being pumped a mile underground, what’s the benefit of having a 10ft deep lake on top of it?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:03 am to jmh5724
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If it’s being pumped a mile underground, what’s the benefit of having a 10ft deep lake on top of it?
Maybe it's easier to see bubbles and know if there's a well leak?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:04 am to Icansee4miles
I wish I could give your post more upvotes. 
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:05 am to Upperdecker
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Government policy. Every government in the world is moving to zero emissions.
There is no such thing as "zero emissions". CCS is another environmental scam to fleece money from established countries while China and others don't have to comply.
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This process is proven out pretty well now and it’s very low impact.
CCS has not been used for very long so long term affects are unknown. It's so "low impact" that it is outlawed in Germany which is why Euro companies want to do it in the US.
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and every company wants to do sequestration.
Most want to do it so they can say, falsely, "we have a zero emissions product". It's marketing and the science behind it is bunk. There is no commercial benefit so it absolutely comes from the bottom line and drives up product costs.
I suspect this is part of the recent money grab from Biden's climate legislation and every company wants to get their piece of the pie.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:06 am to BowDownToLSU
If they pump enough, maybe it will lift NOLA above sea level
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:06 am to Darth_Vader
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limnic eruptions. Lakes in which such activity occurs are referred to as limnically active lakes or exploding lakes.
First thing that came to mind. I lived in Cameroon several years and read about Lake Nyos while there.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:11 am to BowDownToLSU
They're just running seismic to see if it's even possible.
LDNR is gaining primacy on Class VI carbon dioxide sequestration wells and they intend to be more stringent than the USEPA, so if these runs show poor upper confinement the project won't move forward
LDNR is gaining primacy on Class VI carbon dioxide sequestration wells and they intend to be more stringent than the USEPA, so if these runs show poor upper confinement the project won't move forward
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:21 am to AndyCBR
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CCS has not been used for very long so long term affects are unknown.
ACTUALLY, while CCS for the purpose of credits and mitigating emissions hasn't been used for very long, oil & gas operators have used CO2 injection for roughly 40 years to push residue oil out from previously drilled reservoirs. The vast majority of that CO2 will stay trapped in the ground after the remaining oil production operations are complete.
So....
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:24 am to AndyCBR
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I suspect this is part of the recent money grab from Biden's climate legislation and every company wants to get their piece of the pie.
Air Products has had their eyes on sequestering their own CO2 in Louisiana since before Joe Biden was elected President.
Oil & gas companies, and petrochemical companies, have been working on this technology since even before Trump was elected.
Some of you on this board...
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:25 am to Upperdecker
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A number of companies are looking at this in LA in different places
good... perhaps it can attract new companies and spur job and industry growth, longterm, for the state
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:28 am to Upperdecker
quote:Spot on
Government policy. Every government in the world is moving to zero emissions. At some point you can’t reduce the CO2 you make in all these industrial processes and the best way is to bottle it up. This process is proven out pretty well now and it’s very low impact. Plus LA will make a bunch of money for being the hotbed of CO2 sequestration. Y’all don’t realize but this could become a massive industry in LA bc we have the best underground rock formations and soil contents in the USA for this sequestration, and every company wants to do sequestration. The state will make a ton of dollars on this like on oil drilling, and it’ll bring a ton of jobs as companies try to do extra sequestration here to make up for not being able to do it elsewhere
Whether or not you think storing carbon underground actually does anything for improving the atmosphere is one thing. However, the actual process here is a boom to the state, has near zero risk, and is extremely low impact on the area
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:29 am to ragincajun03
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ACTUALLY, while CCS for the purpose of credits and mitigating emissions hasn't been used for very long, oil & gas operators have used CO2 injection for roughly 40 years to push residue oil out from previously drilled reservoirs. The vast majority of that CO2 will stay trapped in the ground after the remaining oil production operations are complete.
So....
So...
The "incidental" storage that happens from oil injection procedures is not the same as the full scale storage proposed of both liquid and gaseous CO2 from these CCS processes.
If CCS was such a long standing and reliable technology, why is it all of the sudden, the hot new thing?
Answer: "Climate Change" agenda and federal monies being handed out.
Once again, we are crippling ourselves and driving product costs higher in the US. All the while, China, and others, are firing up coal plants almost weekly to meet their energy demands for their thriving manufacturing economy.
Open your eyes.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:29 am to Giantkiller
quote:a saline aquifer spanning 150 square miles is much different than a salt cavern
Gonna be Lake Peigneur pt 2.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:31 am to BOSCEAUX
quote:Because this project is ~4 years out. There is an option to capture and re-sell. You get fewer tax credits but you can make that up in CO2 sales.
For now why aren’t they capturing it and selling it?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:32 am to jmh5724
quote:None, that is just where the pore space is located and where the lease was given by the state. They can do this below land or below a lake.
If it’s being pumped a mile underground, what’s the benefit of having a 10ft deep lake on top of it?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:33 am to BowDownToLSU
These dumb fricks realize that CO2 is a vital component of photosynthesis don't they?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:33 am to ragincajun03
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Air Products has had their eyes on sequestering their own CO2 in Louisiana since before Joe Biden was elected President.
Oil & gas companies, and petrochemical companies, have been working on this technology since even before Trump was elected.
Some of you on this board...
I've been involved in some of these feasibility studies and most didn't go anywhere due to no commercial benefit and very high cost. The compression equipment alone is very expensive rotating equipment.
Do you deny that there are subsidies and/or federal monies in the recently passed legislation that encourage CCS technologies and investment?
If it wasn't feasible before, why is it feasible now?
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