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Is there any real chance for a third party to emerge?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:53 pm
Right now we can choose between:
A) The destruction of our Constitutional Republic
B) The destruction of our Constitutional Republic, but slower
A) The destruction of our Constitutional Republic
B) The destruction of our Constitutional Republic, but slower
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:10 pm to TulaneFan
I call it:
- accelerated decline
- managed decline
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:15 pm to TulaneFan
Yes. But it will replace the system itself. Somewhat of a paradox.
A third party should stem from and be tied to a convention of states. We desperately need to reel in federal spending and reset the power balance in government.
The legislative branch makes the laws
The executive branch enforces those laws
The judiciary interprets them.
We should be governed mostly by our local and state governments. The federal government is there for national defense and interstate disputes.
This business of executive orders and judicial mandates and 10,000 page bills no one reads and an absolute complete lack of care or understanding of local politics is what has destroyed this country.
The surrender of our individual rights, local powers, and state autonomy to national federal parties and politicians is as anti-American as it gets.
A third party should stem from and be tied to a convention of states. We desperately need to reel in federal spending and reset the power balance in government.
The legislative branch makes the laws
The executive branch enforces those laws
The judiciary interprets them.
We should be governed mostly by our local and state governments. The federal government is there for national defense and interstate disputes.
This business of executive orders and judicial mandates and 10,000 page bills no one reads and an absolute complete lack of care or understanding of local politics is what has destroyed this country.
The surrender of our individual rights, local powers, and state autonomy to national federal parties and politicians is as anti-American as it gets.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:39 pm to TulaneFan
America First party. Would attract most of Trump supporters. Count me in and get rid of the RINOs
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:41 pm to TulaneFan
A third party would take a couple cycles to show up. UNLESS we see Trump/Desantis type combative style not giving into them. Trump didn't finish his job and I would like to see him finish draining the swamp.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:42 pm to TulaneFan
We would need a four party system. A three party system led by Trump, for instance, would just give the Democrats sweeping supermajorities and unlimited power.
You’d need the old Democrats and Republicans plus a new left wing and a new right wing party.
You’d need the old Democrats and Republicans plus a new left wing and a new right wing party.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:07 pm to TulaneFan
We had a moment when a third party could have been formed, right after republicans knifed Trump and the American people in the back after the 2020 election. Had Trump immediately formed a third party then, we would right now be counting how many new third party legislators were going to be in congress. This was probably the worst decision Trump made for America in his political career.
It seems crazy to me that even Trump didn’t seem to understand the power that a third party, with no more than 6-8 congressmen and no more than 1-2 Senators could name their terms to republicans and marxist democrats alike.
Unfortunately, that iron is no longer hot, and with Trump himself stating that we must work within the same party that knifed us all in the back, possibly fatally, Trump is no longer the guy to lead that third party.
It seems crazy to me that even Trump didn’t seem to understand the power that a third party, with no more than 6-8 congressmen and no more than 1-2 Senators could name their terms to republicans and marxist democrats alike.
Unfortunately, that iron is no longer hot, and with Trump himself stating that we must work within the same party that knifed us all in the back, possibly fatally, Trump is no longer the guy to lead that third party.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:52 am to TulaneFan
Government would function better with a true 3 party system.
Nobody wants to lead are party of independents, DINO’s, and RINO’s. Not enough people on the far left or far right to start a party.
To start a 3 party system it would have to start at the state level. Maine, VT, and NH would be a good start. North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho would also work.
States that don’t have a large Metropolitan area.
Nobody wants to lead are party of independents, DINO’s, and RINO’s. Not enough people on the far left or far right to start a party.
To start a 3 party system it would have to start at the state level. Maine, VT, and NH would be a good start. North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho would also work.
States that don’t have a large Metropolitan area.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:41 am to TulaneFan
I’ve been saying this for over 20 years. The difference is that I’ve backed it up by not voting for candidates in the two party system. There are plenty of better options out there. Stop voting for socialists and socialist lites.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:14 am to TulaneFan
quote:
Is there any real chance for a third party to emerge?
There was, about 10 years ago. The GOPe, with the help of the IRS, killed it.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:34 am to TulaneFan
Two of the three parties would just gang up on the third.
The real problem is politicians making a career of it. Term limits are out best bet.
The real problem is politicians making a career of it. Term limits are out best bet.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:50 am to TulaneFan
Historically third parties do not do well in this country. What needs to happen is to turn the Republican party into the America First party.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:10 am to TulaneFan
quote:
Is there any real chance for a third party to emerge?
No. There will never be more than two viable major parties in this country because of our electoral setup. When a new one emerges, it simply cannibalizes one of the two major parties. It has already happened 3 or 4 times.
An America First party would just hand most elections to Democrats over a couple of cycles before either folding or taking over the GOP.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 7:11 am
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:31 am to TulaneFan
quote:
Is there any real chance for a third party to emerge?
If it did it would start local and expand. It wouldn't just come out and win the national election.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:43 am to TulaneFan
If a third party has any chance of succeeding it needs to start at the local or state level. For example, people in this state getting tired of eating nothing but shite sandwiches and suddenly for no reason at all elect the "Louisiana First Party" into power.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:55 am to TulaneFan
thus far the candidates at the local and national level of such attempts at a major 3rd party emerging all seem to wear clown shoes. It is the rare occurrence when one of their candidates is running for any reason other than to have their name in the news.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:58 am to TulaneFan
But but the Libertarain Party 
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:30 am to TulaneFan
nope no chance as the 2 parties will keep it from happening from keeping $$$$ away from them.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:16 pm to TulaneFan
Terms limits is for Congress is what is needed.
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