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Reagonomics / Citizen's United
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:55 pm
Edit - Unpopular post as expected. But the policies I'm opposing below are bread and butter of the establishment RINO wing of the GOP. Also to clarify I'm very pro wealth. But I don't think wealth can be brought to bear to change the rules and open up opportunities unavailable to the middle class and potential competition.
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:58 pm to Browncd81
RINO=Browncd81
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to Browncd81
quote:
trickle down economics
No such thing.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Corrupt crony capitalism
Our government has grown too large. Reduce the size of the budget by half and watch the private citizens and industry thrive.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:08 pm to Browncd81
Really? Trickle down economics ? You believe this is a Reagan thing? This is nothing more than a democrat expression of something that never was
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:09 pm to Browncd81
Offshoring was a Clinton thing but you go one being you
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:19 pm to Browncd81
quote:You beef isn't with "Reaganomics" nor "Citizens United". Your problem is a corruptible Congress that has too much power over corporations.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
If congress had no power, no one would be lining up to buy them.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:20 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
Trickle down economics isn’t responsible for our current socio-political rot. It’s absurd to pretend it has contributed to it at all.
quote:
Citizen's United.
So you think the government should be able to quell political speech around an election?
Dumb post of the day from you.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:22 pm to Browncd81
quote:
The right is undergoing a populist shift
So fricking disgusting. Populism is the low information, high emotion political perspective.
Watching the right fall into populism is disheartening.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:22 pm to Browncd81
Nothing you listed was a function or result of Reagonomics.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:42 pm to Browncd81
I don't know why you're being downvoted. The main issue is that you can't implement these conservative positions in a country of 350m people.
That said, I'm not sure your focus on Reagonomics or Citizens United really makes sense. What you're really targeting is the conflation of conservatism with libertarianism or free market absolutism.
That said, I'm not sure your focus on Reagonomics or Citizens United really makes sense. What you're really targeting is the conflation of conservatism with libertarianism or free market absolutism.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:44 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
This is 100% spot on. If you’d throw away the nonsense of Citizens United and Reagonomics, this late addition to your post is spot on.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:50 pm to Browncd81
quote:Explain what you think caused this.
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
quote:Nothing to do with your topic(s)
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
quote:Corruption can occur anywhere.
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
quote:And this is related how?
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
You could possibly have a point, but you didn't make any in your post.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:52 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Amen brother... A fricking men..
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:08 pm to Browncd81
Trickle down economics is pure capitalism.
But we don't have pure capitalism. We have crony capitalism.
Therefore, we can't have trickle down economics. It doesn't work.
Trickle down only works if everyone makes the best LONG TERM financial decision they can, the one that will maximize their financial position.
For many reasons, at all levels of the socioeconomic system, people do not make the best LONG TERM financial maximization position.
Sacrificing long term growth for short term profits is 100 percent against trickle down. And yet... that's what just about every public company does.
But we don't have pure capitalism. We have crony capitalism.
Therefore, we can't have trickle down economics. It doesn't work.
Trickle down only works if everyone makes the best LONG TERM financial decision they can, the one that will maximize their financial position.
For many reasons, at all levels of the socioeconomic system, people do not make the best LONG TERM financial maximization position.
Sacrificing long term growth for short term profits is 100 percent against trickle down. And yet... that's what just about every public company does.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:09 pm to Browncd81
quote:
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
3 things would fix this country overnight
1. anything stemming from the misinterpreted welfare clause is deemed unconstitutional: medicaid, medicare, all forms of "welfare" abolished, including federal tax breaks for and handouts to corporations.
2. commerce clause deemed unconstitutional
3. birthright citizenship deemed unconstitutional
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:17 pm to Browncd81
When the Unions get out of politics, I will gladly oppose
Citizen's United.
Citizen's United.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:31 pm to Browncd81
quote:
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Give me a constitutional argument against citizens, not an emotional one. Otherwise you are just like the left.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:40 pm to Browncd81
Who remembers Jimmy Carter's zero based budget? You started at zero and had to justify everything you budgeted. It was impossible with the small company I worked for that adopted it when Jimmy proposed it. If we couldn't do, how do you justify every dollar you request with a federal budget? Good idea if it was at all possible but it would take you 10 years just to do one year's budget.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:51 pm to Browncd81
quote:worked
Reaganomics
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